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re: Stetson Bennett, the outlier....
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:44 am to koreandawg
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:44 am to koreandawg
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2010 NCG vs. Texas: 6 of 11 58 yards. (1950's football).
2011 Bowl game vs. Michigan: 13 of 17 220 yards 1 td.
McElroy broke his ribs in SECCG game and was not healed by the NCG. Not fun to engage in any type of physical activity with cracked ribs and a flack jacket.
And did you watch the 49-7 Michigan State/Alabama execution in McElroy's final game. Alabama knocked Kirk Cousins and his backup out of the game in successive series. It was 28-0 at half and Saban pulled McElroy after one series in the second half. How the hell can you even use that as a legitimate data point when Bennet was playing late into the 4th in both playoff games?
And McElroy played before the real pussification of defense in college and professional football. When you could actually hit a QB above the waist without being suspended for a game.
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:23 pm to bisonduck
You can google him or use recruiting services to confirm.
“A tweet from WWL (05/11/22) Jayden Daniels was reportedly clocked at running 21 mph at practice.
The fastest player in the NFL in 2021 was running back Raheem Mostert who was clocked at running at 23.09 and 22.73 mph on a couple of touchdown runs.
By those numbers, this puts Daniels in the wheelhouse of potentially being one of the fastest players in the NFL in the event he winds up being drafted.”
For reference, King got clocked at 22 mph
“Fisher referred to King as a guy who could run a sub-4.50 40-yard dash. At the quarterback position, this is extremely rare.”
So do I think King, Daniels or Bennett is faster? Who knows, who cares, they are all fast
Btw a lot of teams report how fast these kids ran during Spring/Summer, now I never say Daniels play at Arizona State, you’re an Oregon fan right? Since you’ve seen him play, you’re saying he plays slow?
“A tweet from WWL (05/11/22) Jayden Daniels was reportedly clocked at running 21 mph at practice.
The fastest player in the NFL in 2021 was running back Raheem Mostert who was clocked at running at 23.09 and 22.73 mph on a couple of touchdown runs.
By those numbers, this puts Daniels in the wheelhouse of potentially being one of the fastest players in the NFL in the event he winds up being drafted.”
For reference, King got clocked at 22 mph
“Fisher referred to King as a guy who could run a sub-4.50 40-yard dash. At the quarterback position, this is extremely rare.”
So do I think King, Daniels or Bennett is faster? Who knows, who cares, they are all fast
Btw a lot of teams report how fast these kids ran during Spring/Summer, now I never say Daniels play at Arizona State, you’re an Oregon fan right? Since you’ve seen him play, you’re saying he plays slow?
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:44 pm to RandySavage
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wouldn't call 17 carries for 43 years running "all over".
The total number is very very misleading
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:56 pm to JayAg
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Btw a lot of teams report how fast these kids ran during Spring/Summer, now I never say Daniels play at Arizona State, you’re an Oregon fan right? Since you’ve seen him play, you’re saying he plays slow?
He’s definitely not sub 4.5. Mariota ran a 4.48 for reference. I’ve watched Daniels and he’s no where close to Mariota. He’s not slow though.
I know Justin Flowe at ILB ran a 21.75 MPH and he’s more like 4.65 in the 40. If Daniels is only 21, he’s probably more like a 4.7.
Also, those GPS numbers for the NFL are during games with pads on. Daniels is probably in shirts and shorts.
Oregon has multiple players that clock over 23. The testing conditions and parameters need to be the same to compare.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:57 pm to JayAg
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You know who was an under 6 foot Heisman QB that fell to the 5th round? And he didn’t make it in the league? His name was Troy Smith, an Ohio State QB, I saw him play that last season The only short QB’s that seemed to break the mold was Kyler, but Kyler is an incredible athlete, I think he was drafted 4th in the MLB draft that last year too? And I’m talking under 6 feet, it’s tough to get drafted
I’ll be curious to see where Bryce Young lands since he looked about 2 inches shorter than Stetson when they shook hands.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:15 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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And McElroy played before the real pussification of defense in college and professional football. When you could actually hit a QB above the waist without being suspended for a game.
I think you are confusing college with the NFL here. Maybe you meant above the neck.
Anyway the purpose of this post was to say there really isn't a good comparison for Stetson, not to find the best comparison to him. I don't find him a good comparison because he was never seen as the MVP of your offense that I can recall.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:40 pm to bisonduck
Daniels has been clocked since high school as a 4.5 guy, I’ll give you he’s probably not 4.4, but 4.7 is a stretch bc he’s been measured before, at least by places like 247, we shall see at the Combine
List of QB’s that run under “4.6”:
Stetson-Georgia (sub 4.5) under 6 feet
A&M-King (sub 4.5) over 6”
Daniels-LSU (4.5 guy) over 6”
Hornsby-Arkansas (4.5 guy, I think he has a 10.5 100m in track?) over 6”
Bryce Young-Bama (according to google, sub 4.5 guy, didn’t know that) under 6 feet
The only one(s) that won’t start is Hornsby, and King if Max wins, I don’t know much about the QBs on the SEC East bc we don’t really play them but someone we will:
Anthony Richardson-Florida (4.5 guy) over 6 feet
It’s an interesting trend in our conference right now, and I’m curious to see at the combine which schools exaggerate speed
List of QB’s that run under “4.6”:
Stetson-Georgia (sub 4.5) under 6 feet
A&M-King (sub 4.5) over 6”
Daniels-LSU (4.5 guy) over 6”
Hornsby-Arkansas (4.5 guy, I think he has a 10.5 100m in track?) over 6”
Bryce Young-Bama (according to google, sub 4.5 guy, didn’t know that) under 6 feet
The only one(s) that won’t start is Hornsby, and King if Max wins, I don’t know much about the QBs on the SEC East bc we don’t really play them but someone we will:
Anthony Richardson-Florida (4.5 guy) over 6 feet
It’s an interesting trend in our conference right now, and I’m curious to see at the combine which schools exaggerate speed
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:19 pm to JayAg
Daniels ran a 4.68 at a sparq event. Go watch some highlights and tell me he’s Mariota fast.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:29 pm to koreandawg
Will Uga throw the ball more to try to pump up his stats? I could see that happening. They will roll plenty of teams do I could see them doing him a solid and rubbing it in on a few of those teams to pad his stats.
I do think he’s a total baller. I’m not sure what that translates to in the NFL. Russell Wilson is probably his ideal comp. I do think he has a better chance of winning a Heisman than being a starting QB in the NFL, in large part because I don’t think he will be given a legit opportunity.
I do think he’s a total baller. I’m not sure what that translates to in the NFL. Russell Wilson is probably his ideal comp. I do think he has a better chance of winning a Heisman than being a starting QB in the NFL, in large part because I don’t think he will be given a legit opportunity.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:37 pm to bisonduck
I’m saying there is a lot of people, websites that say he’s a 4.5 guy, Im not going to cherry pick them, imo we shall see at the combine, but I’ll remember you told me so when he runs at the combine, I’m interest how all these guys do tbh bc some teams do embellish speed.
We had Ryan Tannehill run in the 4.6s at the combine, 4.5s at pro day, and interesting note on Reggie McNeal:
NFL Combine Scores
40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.60 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.63 seconds
So if you don’t even need to run 20 mph to hit sub 4.5, I’ll just note who people say are fast and we shall see at the combine/pro day
We had Ryan Tannehill run in the 4.6s at the combine, 4.5s at pro day, and interesting note on Reggie McNeal:
NFL Combine Scores
40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.60 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.63 seconds
So if you don’t even need to run 20 mph to hit sub 4.5, I’ll just note who people say are fast and we shall see at the combine/pro day
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:41 pm to JayAg
Thing with stet, in his running h8ghlights, he is always pulling away from the defender, some with angles.
None of it makes any sense but Roquan Smith raved about how hard he was to catch.
None of it makes any sense but Roquan Smith raved about how hard he was to catch.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:44 pm to koreandawg
No he was carried by defense. Not NFL caliber, but we'll enough for CFB.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:49 pm to JayAg
18 mph is not very fast top end speed. I assume that’s the average? Christian Gonzalez and Khamari Terrell for Oregon ran 23.3 and 23.4 MPH per our speed coach. What does that translate to in the 40? NDSU fan said Watson ran 23 in pads and clocked 4.36 at the combine.
Go watch Daniels highlights. The only official and verifiable time for Daniels is 4.68. I said 4.7 before looking too. That’s how fast he looks to me.
Go watch Daniels highlights. The only official and verifiable time for Daniels is 4.68. I said 4.7 before looking too. That’s how fast he looks to me.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:06 am to AllDawgCK
I'll just say this, if JT had the same stats and the same kind of playoff games, no one would be saying he was carried by our defense.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:17 am to AllDawgCK
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No he was carried by defense.
good lord, save the stupid takes for rivals
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:44 am to Pandy Fackler
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Georgia's going nine and three.
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Pandy Fackler
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:33 am to AllDawgCK
quote:He may not be a prototypical NFL QB, but he wasn’t carried by the defense. Our offense was potent, knocking teams around in the first 3 quarters. Bennett was a big contributor to that.
No he was carried by defense. Not NFL caliber, but we'll enough for CFB.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:37 am to JayAg
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So if you don’t even need to run 20 mph to hit sub 4.5, I’ll just note who people say are fast and we shall see at the combine/pro day
Oregon has guys clocking 23 mph but their best recorded 40 times are 4.7.
Mph basically asks if you can catch a guy at angle or from behind before the endzone on a long run. 40 time shortens that race a bit and has more to do with practicing starts.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:43 am to FooManChoo
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He may not be a prototypical NFL QB, but he wasn’t carried by the defense.
Without the D dictating to teams dude is a turnover machine on a good day.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:38 am to Smokeyone
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Without the D dictating to teams
What does that even mean?
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dude is a turnover machine on a good day.
He is a gunslinger. Not a game manager. I agree. Turnover machine may be a bit much. He isn't a system QB by any means.
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