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re: Statistical Analysis Shows Alabama Gets Screwed By Holding Calls More Than Any Other Team
Posted on 10/3/18 at 3:22 am to Mechie17
Posted on 10/3/18 at 3:22 am to Mechie17
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Mechie17
You might be actually retarded. The way you make a correlation is literally just putting the two numbers on a graph and seeing what pattern it makes. There isn’t any kind of big hidden secret and the x axis doesn’t even necessarily mean anything.
The raw data (that we care about in this thread) is presented meaningfully in the y axis
He described searching through all the text of the plays in the database and accounting for differences in abbreviations as part of the algorithm.
Spot on. As they say, this ain't rocket surgery.
And I think we can all reasonably and statistically derive that the Judge is dumber than a fence post in things that are related to math and statistics.
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:11 am to Bench McElroy
Interesting data, and some Stats are tough to understand without knowing what you're looking at. I'm taking Stats this semester, and still have a bunch to learn, but I understand what this study is showing. Thank you Stats class!!!
Seems using sack data might not be best DL strengh data because not everyone plays against the same competition,. When a DL linemen is playing no NFL quality OL, seems that will skew things. Some teams aren't playing against any NFL quality OL, and that matters.
Using a college programs number of DL drafted by NFL might be best data because if you team has a good number of NFL quality DL. That DL should get lots of holding calls against them, and if they don't, something is wrong. AKA Bama, Bama has had a good amount of DL drafted lately, and you're telling us all, those Bama DL's barely get holding against them? Yeah right!!!!
The NFL spends millions on college DL draft possibilities: that's probably the best data of thew quality of DL a college program has and how hard that given DL are to block. NFL = Major resources
Seems using sack data might not be best DL strengh data because not everyone plays against the same competition,. When a DL linemen is playing no NFL quality OL, seems that will skew things. Some teams aren't playing against any NFL quality OL, and that matters.
Using a college programs number of DL drafted by NFL might be best data because if you team has a good number of NFL quality DL. That DL should get lots of holding calls against them, and if they don't, something is wrong. AKA Bama, Bama has had a good amount of DL drafted lately, and you're telling us all, those Bama DL's barely get holding against them? Yeah right!!!!
The NFL spends millions on college DL draft possibilities: that's probably the best data of thew quality of DL a college program has and how hard that given DL are to block. NFL = Major resources
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 4:19 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:22 am to SquirrelyBama
Holy smokes, I just realized where Bama was on graph.
Holy Outlier, and that Bama stat alone skews the R values so much it hurts.
Holy Outlier, and that Bama stat alone skews the R values so much it hurts.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 5:59 am to Bench McElroy
We've also been getting shafted for years in the Opponent's Penalties category. Many years since Saban arrived we're last or almost last nationally.
Link to one of my previous posts from last year below about Opponent's Penalties. So far this year it hasn't been as bad, yet.
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Has been going on for years.
'17 - 130 out of 130 teams
'16 - 128 of 128
'15 - 102 of 128
'14 - 123 of 128
'13 - 89 of 125
'12 - 108 of 124
'11 - 117 of 120 ...
Teams that avg 65-70 yds a game magically barely get flagged vs BAMA. Happens every week.
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Link to one of my previous posts from last year below about Opponent's Penalties. So far this year it hasn't been as bad, yet.
LINK
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Has been going on for years.
'17 - 130 out of 130 teams
'16 - 128 of 128
'15 - 102 of 128
'14 - 123 of 128
'13 - 89 of 125
'12 - 108 of 124
'11 - 117 of 120 ...
Teams that avg 65-70 yds a game magically barely get flagged vs BAMA. Happens every week.
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 6:43 am to Bench McElroy
What I have learned is that there are 38 Bama fans currently posting on this board.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:17 am to AshLSU
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Didn’t Alabama run the exact same play the year before and not get called either?
We ran one last year in the Sugar Bowl that could’ve been called but you’re missing the point. If the refs were in our pocket and gave us favorable calls at key moments in games, then the deciding play of the National Championship game would probably be a good time to play that card....especially when the play is kinda in the realm of being an illegal play.
Clemson ran around 200 plays over two seasons against the best front 7 in the country and never got flagged for a hold. That’s two close Championship games with plenty of “key moments” and the refs stayed silent. Kind of amazing for that to happen to a team that supposedly has the refs in their pockets.
*Not discounting Clemson’s play. They won in 2016 fair and square.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/3/18 at 8:39 am to FairhopeTider
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*Not discounting Clemson’s play. They won in 2016 fair and square.
Clemson ran 99 snaps against Bama's defense in 2017. 0 penalties. No team IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL has ever run as many plays without a penalty. The next closest team was Nebraska back in the 90's when they ran the option.
The odds of this happening based on 2000-16 penalty data is roughly 1 in 120 seasons worth of games against an average defense- not an elite defense like Bama.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:38 am to JudgeHolden
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Which he doesn’t present in any meaningful way.
You outed yourself as a retard earlier in this thread and then tried to play it off as trolling. Now you’ve removed all doubt that you are in fact not intelligent.
It’s a simple equation. Number of plays ran and number of penalties called in a time span are very tangible and concrete numbers. This guy just plugged all of that data into a spreadsheet and presented the data that excel averaged out for him. Why he’s calling it an algorithm I don’t know, it’s division that third graders can complete without their calculator. X holding penalties were called in Y amount of games (holding penalties benefitting the defense for you simpletons) . What is the average number of penalties per game. For Michigan, X is a very low number. For Alabama, it’s significantly lower than that
We can either deduct from this data that Alabama defenders are rarely ever held, or that the referees give opposing offenses a lot more freedom and leeway when facing Alabama. That part is up to your own interpretation. The raw data is not.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:34 am to AshLSU
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You don’t have to be good when you are allowed to hold.
Wow x3
The craziest part of this whole thread. Is 3 different people posted about Alabama's offensive line holding...
They believe so fiercely that there is a conspiracy that Alabama gets all the calls, that they can't even process the data presented to them.
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