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re: Southern Business and Law School Rankings
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:35 am to ClassicCityAlum
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:35 am to ClassicCityAlum
I've heard Auburn's business school is under the radar strong and continues to improve (Harbert).
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:37 am to CatfishJohn
For business schools, I like looking at the P&Q index.
It's a composite score from different ranking sources, kind of like a recruiting composite score.
If you're curious:
Composite Rank School
1 Northwestern (Kellogg)
2 Harvard Business School
3 Columbia Business School
4 Dartmouth (Tuck)
5 Virginia (Darden)
7 Cornell (Johnson)
6 New York (Stern)
8 Pennsylvania (Wharton)
9 Michigan (Ross)
10 UCLA (Anderson)
11 MIT (Sloan)
12 Chicago (Booth)
13 Texas-Austin (McCombs)
14 UC-Berkeley (Haas)
15 Duke (Fuqua)
16 Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)
17 Yale SOM
18 Vanderbilt (Owen)
19 Washington (Olin)
20 Georgia Institute of Technology (Scheller)
21 North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler)
22 Emory (Goizueta)
23 Washington (Foster)
24 Southern California (Marshall)
25 Georgetown (McDonough)
26 Stanford GSB
27 Rice (Jones)
28 Notre Dame (Mendoza)
29 Georgia (Terry)
30 Rochester (Simon)
31 Arizona State (Carey)
32 UC-Irvine (Merage)
33 Texas-Dallas (Jindal)
34 Boston University (Questrom)
35 Florida (Hough)
36 William & Mary (Mason)
37 Brigham Young (Marriott)
38 Texas A&M (Mays)
39 Indiana (Kelley)
40 Fordham (Gabelli)
41 University of Miami (Herbert)
42 Southern Methodist (Cox)
43 Minnesota (Carlson)
44 Wisconsin
45 Babson College (Olin)
46 Ohio State (Fisher)
47 Maryland (Smith)
48 Hult International
49 Texas Christian (Neeley)
50 Rutgers Business School
51 Michigan State (Broad)
52 Utah (Eccles)
53 Pittsburgh (Katz)
54 Tennessee-Knoxville (Haslam)
55 Boston College (Carroll)
56 Northeastern (D’Amore-McKim)
57 Baylor (Hankamer)
58 American (Kogod)
59 Tulane (Freeman)
60 Syracuse (Whitman)
61 Iowa State
62 Baruch (Zicklin)
63 Kentucky (Gatton)
64 Auburn (Harbert)
65 Arkansas (Walton)
66 Alabama (Manderson)
67 George Washington
68 Cincinnati (Lindner)
70 Buffalo (SUNY)
71 Colorado (Leeds)
72 Oklahoma (Price)
73 UC-Davis
73 Chapman (Argyros)
73 Arizona (Eller)
76 Pepperdine (Graziadio)
76 Stevens Institute of Technology
76 UC-San Diego (Rady)
79 Texas Tech (Rawls)
80 South Carolina (Moore)
81 Kansas
83 Massachusetts-Amherst (Isenberg)
81 Charleston
69 Oklahoma State (Spears)
84 North Carolina A&T (Deese)
84 Detroit Mercy
86 San Diego (Knauss)
87 Tampa (Sykes)
88 Morgan State (Graves)
89 Willamette (Atkinson)
90 Rollins (Crummer)
90 Case Western (Weatherhead)
90 Mississippi
90 Loyola Maryland (Sellinger)
94 Pace (Lubin)
94 NC State (Poole)
96 Johns Hopkins (Carey)
96 Louisiana State (Ourso)
98 Lehigh
99 Temple (Fox)
100 Binghamton (SUNY)
It's a composite score from different ranking sources, kind of like a recruiting composite score.
If you're curious:
Composite Rank School
1 Northwestern (Kellogg)
2 Harvard Business School
3 Columbia Business School
4 Dartmouth (Tuck)
5 Virginia (Darden)
7 Cornell (Johnson)
6 New York (Stern)
8 Pennsylvania (Wharton)
9 Michigan (Ross)
10 UCLA (Anderson)
11 MIT (Sloan)
12 Chicago (Booth)
13 Texas-Austin (McCombs)
14 UC-Berkeley (Haas)
15 Duke (Fuqua)
16 Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)
17 Yale SOM
18 Vanderbilt (Owen)
19 Washington (Olin)
20 Georgia Institute of Technology (Scheller)
21 North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler)
22 Emory (Goizueta)
23 Washington (Foster)
24 Southern California (Marshall)
25 Georgetown (McDonough)
26 Stanford GSB
27 Rice (Jones)
28 Notre Dame (Mendoza)
29 Georgia (Terry)
30 Rochester (Simon)
31 Arizona State (Carey)
32 UC-Irvine (Merage)
33 Texas-Dallas (Jindal)
34 Boston University (Questrom)
35 Florida (Hough)
36 William & Mary (Mason)
37 Brigham Young (Marriott)
38 Texas A&M (Mays)
39 Indiana (Kelley)
40 Fordham (Gabelli)
41 University of Miami (Herbert)
42 Southern Methodist (Cox)
43 Minnesota (Carlson)
44 Wisconsin
45 Babson College (Olin)
46 Ohio State (Fisher)
47 Maryland (Smith)
48 Hult International
49 Texas Christian (Neeley)
50 Rutgers Business School
51 Michigan State (Broad)
52 Utah (Eccles)
53 Pittsburgh (Katz)
54 Tennessee-Knoxville (Haslam)
55 Boston College (Carroll)
56 Northeastern (D’Amore-McKim)
57 Baylor (Hankamer)
58 American (Kogod)
59 Tulane (Freeman)
60 Syracuse (Whitman)
61 Iowa State
62 Baruch (Zicklin)
63 Kentucky (Gatton)
64 Auburn (Harbert)
65 Arkansas (Walton)
66 Alabama (Manderson)
67 George Washington
68 Cincinnati (Lindner)
70 Buffalo (SUNY)
71 Colorado (Leeds)
72 Oklahoma (Price)
73 UC-Davis
73 Chapman (Argyros)
73 Arizona (Eller)
76 Pepperdine (Graziadio)
76 Stevens Institute of Technology
76 UC-San Diego (Rady)
79 Texas Tech (Rawls)
80 South Carolina (Moore)
81 Kansas
83 Massachusetts-Amherst (Isenberg)
81 Charleston
69 Oklahoma State (Spears)
84 North Carolina A&T (Deese)
84 Detroit Mercy
86 San Diego (Knauss)
87 Tampa (Sykes)
88 Morgan State (Graves)
89 Willamette (Atkinson)
90 Rollins (Crummer)
90 Case Western (Weatherhead)
90 Mississippi
90 Loyola Maryland (Sellinger)
94 Pace (Lubin)
94 NC State (Poole)
96 Johns Hopkins (Carey)
96 Louisiana State (Ourso)
98 Lehigh
99 Temple (Fox)
100 Binghamton (SUNY)
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:51 am to CatfishJohn
Not sure how this is even quantified anymore and how much difference can their possibly be...
I have worked for 4 multimillionaire entrepreneurs, and the wealthiest had a 9th grade education.
The real world is changing and far harder than anything a college can teach... Colleges teach how things were done 10 years ago and not what is happening today.... They teach how it should be, but the real world isn't.... They teach you hive mentality when true businessmen couldn't be further from that.
You have to be tenacious and basically ignorant of the challenges that lie ahead to make it...m Just pure on stubborn that your idea will work no matter....
Business schools gives us the idiot bud light, target, Gillette, cracker barrel moron, bubble critter's who think their customer smell like Walmart... or give a flying frick about social issues.
I have worked for 4 multimillionaire entrepreneurs, and the wealthiest had a 9th grade education.
The real world is changing and far harder than anything a college can teach... Colleges teach how things were done 10 years ago and not what is happening today.... They teach how it should be, but the real world isn't.... They teach you hive mentality when true businessmen couldn't be further from that.
You have to be tenacious and basically ignorant of the challenges that lie ahead to make it...m Just pure on stubborn that your idea will work no matter....
Business schools gives us the idiot bud light, target, Gillette, cracker barrel moron, bubble critter's who think their customer smell like Walmart... or give a flying frick about social issues.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:13 pm to ClassicCityAlum
I think UGaAlum has an alter.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:26 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
UGaAlum
I’m sure he’s a well spoken fellow. And if I were to deny your accusation, I assume that’d only further convince you that you’re right.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:41 pm to lewis and herschel
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You have to be tenacious and basically ignorant of the challenges that lie ahead to make it...m Just pure on stubborn that your idea will work no matter....
Business schools gives us the idiot bud light, target, Gillette, cracker barrel moron, bubble critter's who think their customer smell like Walmart... or give a flying frick about social issues.
Shockingly rational and level-headed take for a Dawg!
I fit the stubborn part of the criteria, and I was indeed naive relative to the challenges of building a business, though less so than most.
Since I built and exited my business, some of the best entrepreneurs I've met were HS-educated guys who just started out small and kept their nose to the grindstone in an industry that they learned something about.
It always cracks me up when I see these postings on places like Catalant for "entrepreneurial reform needed, PE-backed company, former McKinsey/Bain/etc consultant experience required". Those clowns are the exact opposite of what they need, but they'll fall over backwards paying a prestige school MBA big money to guide them into bankruptcy when a guy who's actually built a company and had to live the consequences is what they need.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:37 pm to TheRealTigerHorn
Your anecdotal, subjective experience aside, the vast, vast majority of very successful business owners are very well educated. Also, most people will not be starting their own business in rural Louisiana. The men aged 25-35 who are making seven figures while working under another business owner are, likewise, very well educated.
I can find a purple-haired, ex-barista, Palestinian devotee with a high IQ - the anecdote doesn’t prove the point.
I can find a purple-haired, ex-barista, Palestinian devotee with a high IQ - the anecdote doesn’t prove the point.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:05 pm to CatfishJohn
Are those undergraduate business school rankings of MBA rankings?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:10 pm to ClassicCityAlum
quote:
Your anecdotal, subjective experience aside, the vast, vast majority of very successful business owners are very well educated. Also, most people will not be starting their own business in rural Louisiana. The men aged 25-35 who are making seven figures while working under another business owner are, likewise, very well educated.
LOL. You have no idea how much objective data I have behind that. I was closely involved wth the IC2 Institute at the University of Texas for the better part of two decades. IC2 stands for "Innovation, Creativity, and Capital". It was the leading authority in US Higher Ed for 30 or more years on entrepreneurship, and more or less invented the "incubator" phenomenon for young companies that has expanded worldwide now.
There are plenty of both examples out there, more of the ones run by guys with less than impressive educations than people realize, which was both my point and the point of the guy I replied to.
In sharp contrast, I have seen vastly more failures by ex-consultants than successes. I have also had a ringside seat for the current round of PE idiocy of handing established companies to fresh grad Ivy MBAs, with a very high failure rate.
FTR, I have one of those "prestige MBAs", plus the benefit of 40+ years of real world experience. Don't be so quick to dismiss people, you never know who you might be talking to. That is one of the top 5 lessons for young entrepreneurs to learn.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:18 pm to lsufball19
quote:result of Bama having such low acceptance standards.
I’m surprised Alabama didn’t land on the top 30 southern law school list.
They can only lower the bar so far
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:46 pm to AGGIES
Not buying that the Aggie law school is that much of a player.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:03 pm to TheRealTigerHorn
quote:
You have no idea how much objective data I have behind that.
Would love to see studies, charts, or any other evidence of this objective data not based on your subjective life experiences.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:50 am to TheRealTigerHorn
Entrepreneurs, operating in the real world, couldn't be further from a Professor, they deal in reality daily and have to find creative ways to overcome what no book could ever explain as it pertains to their specific dynamic of problem solving. Best way is to just keep your nose to the grind stone as many problems solve themselves with time.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:06 am to TheRealTigerHorn
I have seen the same, it's almost like the MBA type uses it to compensate but truthfully experience is what matters in the real world.... Many leaders are named now for the wrong reasons, boomers over compensate for lack of it skills by hiring computer savvy skills instead of skills pertinent to the job at hand.... The entire retail merchant landscape is full of this now.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:01 am to ClassicCityAlum
I'd easily rate Vanderbilt ahead of Duke and UVA for law. Especially Duke.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:03 am to Cimarron
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I'd easily rate Vanderbilt ahead of Duke and UVA for law. Especially Duke.
Then you don’t know much about big law.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:55 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:Obnoxious post. Thread is about grad schools, not undergrad nor overall combined.
We strive in healthcare, vet stuff, and I believe we have a top 5 business school in the Nation.
Total school rankings in the SEC according to US News
1. Vandy
2a. Florida
2b. Texas
4. Georgia
5. Texas A&M
And to be clear, Florida is well behind Texas by any academic measure, undergrad, overall, or grad school rankings.
Way to show your little man syndrome looking for attention?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:04 am to ClassicCityAlum
quote:
Then you don’t know much about big law.
Yeah I do. My son is a U.S. Attorney in D.C. I'd rank Georgetown ahead of both.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:13 am to ClassicCityAlum
What the world needs is another fricking lawyer..
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:40 am to ClassicCityAlum
Seven figures?? So the economy isn’t in shambles? Sign me up!!
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