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So what was the defensive scheme that shut down JFF
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:01 pm
For Florida and LSU?
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:02 pm to NATidefan
Nick-Saban
edit: you fricked it up for me
edit: you fricked it up for me
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:02 pm to sugatowng
Contain and make him throw.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:04 pm to NATidefan
Started watching the LSU game, looks like they started with a 4 man front and switched to a three man and tried to disguise who was blitzing and who was covering out of the back 8. But I haven't finished the first half yet.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:07 pm to NATidefan
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Contain and make him throw.
Pretty much this. We tried other stuff at the beginning of the game, they scored several points, then we moved to this and pretty much shut him down.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:08 pm to NATidefan
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Started watching the LSU game, looks like they started with a 4 man front and switched to a three man and tried to disguise who was blitzing and who was covering out of the back 8. But I haven't finished the first half yet.
Yep. Three down lineman and brought the blitz from different angles. Something Bama does anyway and should have no problem shutting down JFF.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:08 pm to NATidefan
Have better athletes
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:08 pm to NATidefan
Cant shut him down. You can only hope to limit him. Sell out to stop the run and he will pass all over you. Sell out to stop the pass, and well, you know what happens.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:10 pm to super egg
"Shutting him down" means holding him to under 350 total yards. He still did better against LSU than just about anyone, including McCarron.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:10 pm to NATidefan
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Started watching the LSU game,
link?
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:11 pm to NATidefan
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Started watching the LSU game, looks like they started with a 4 man front and switched to a three man and tried to disguise who was blitzing
This.
Go to a 3 man front. Have your D-lineman press the line straight forward and contain while bringing two of your LB's up the field with an emphasis on covering the flats, and, have your other two plug open B gaps.
Essentially fill the gaps upfront and plug lanes, and have athletic LB's press the pocket and wait to flush to the outside.
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But I haven't finished the first half yet.
You can refresh my memory, but, as best I can remember once we switched to this front/scheme, I'm not sure if A&M got more than 2 or 3 first downs until their final possession when Chavis went to our soft Nickel coverage and they scored a TD.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:11 pm to kmcmah1
Strong 3 man front, contain around the sides, over tight with their superior speed in the secondary. Also, the line had cat-like abilities to jump sideways off whatever o-lineman they were engaged with to get into his running lane if he took a step downfield.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:11 pm to super egg
LSU appeared to stop the run pretty well with 3 lineman from I'm seeing.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:11 pm to kmcmah1
The adjustment that worked for LSU was a 3-2-6 with rushers staying in their lanes and not getting deeper than the QB. The goal was to force JFF to pass. Once we adjusted we shut him down until a trash time TD late.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:11 pm to NATidefan
Keep him in the pocket
Profit
Profit
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:13 pm to bona fide
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:19 pm to TigerBwoy
Well when you first switched to it they had a bit of success but not nearly as much. I'm sure you got better at as time went on. But I definitely saw a big change in production after that switch.
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:24 pm to NATidefan
Containment and discipline.
Your lbs have to stay honest too.
He's slippery so if he hits that corner he's gone.
Keep him inside with your speed and he can either run back or forward.
And if he runs forward you collapse that pocket on him.
If he hits that corner he's going all dipsy doodle Big 12 style and doing that will set off a really ugly chain of events.
I'm talking hand signals, 1950's looking boarding school uniforms and cheer boys.
Your lbs have to stay honest too.
He's slippery so if he hits that corner he's gone.
Keep him inside with your speed and he can either run back or forward.
And if he runs forward you collapse that pocket on him.
If he hits that corner he's going all dipsy doodle Big 12 style and doing that will set off a really ugly chain of events.
I'm talking hand signals, 1950's looking boarding school uniforms and cheer boys.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:25 pm to NATidefan
Yeah. At first it seemed like Chavis was flirting with it, and tweaking which personnel we were sending on certain assignments.
Start of the 2nd half I think is when we were comfortable with the package and the personnel and I think they may have gotten 2 first downs all half until their last drive.
Like I said, I could be wrong, but, that's what I remember from watching it live a few weeks ago, and only seeing it once.
Either way, I'm not sure A&M will have much success at all.
If there's one thing we know about Saban and the coordinators he employs, it's that they know the strategy to suffocate their opponents, they won't wait to use it. They will use it from the very start of the game, and, employ it to the very last snap regardless of the players they send on the field.
A&M might get a big play here or there, but, as far as having sustained success moving the chains throughout the contest, I don't think it will happen.
I also look for McCarron to have a huge day. LSU's receivers got behind A&M's DB's pretty easily on multiple occasions. And, by a good distance. Mettenberger and the WR core just didn't have the timing down to execute most of the time.
Start of the 2nd half I think is when we were comfortable with the package and the personnel and I think they may have gotten 2 first downs all half until their last drive.
Like I said, I could be wrong, but, that's what I remember from watching it live a few weeks ago, and only seeing it once.
Either way, I'm not sure A&M will have much success at all.
If there's one thing we know about Saban and the coordinators he employs, it's that they know the strategy to suffocate their opponents, they won't wait to use it. They will use it from the very start of the game, and, employ it to the very last snap regardless of the players they send on the field.
A&M might get a big play here or there, but, as far as having sustained success moving the chains throughout the contest, I don't think it will happen.
I also look for McCarron to have a huge day. LSU's receivers got behind A&M's DB's pretty easily on multiple occasions. And, by a good distance. Mettenberger and the WR core just didn't have the timing down to execute most of the time.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:25 pm to super egg
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Cant shut him down.
You must not have watched the Florida game. Those 60 yards of offense A&M put up in the 2nd half were really impressive.
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