re: So Smart demanded "full disclosure of the state of the NCAA’s current look-see"

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Pat Dye needs to go the frick away, he has become the cancer on that Universities arse.

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Coach Dye got so punked by Longshore on 740 AM Sports radio this morning. Probably up on their website by now.

Why did Smart need full disclosure? Why didn't he just log on to Bama Online or Capstone Report? Or better yet, just ask Danny Sheridan the next time he help a Auburn's NCAA trouble fap-fest at Bryant-Denny.

As the debate rages on as to what was really the kicker for Kirby not getting the AU job, Shannon Terry had this to share. This is pretty interesting.

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According to sources close to Smart, Jacobs asked Smart if they offer the job and AU tells him he can't coach in the BCS title game would he still take it. Smart reportedly responded that he wouldn't want to work for someone who wouldn't want him to finish what he started. There was mixed feels from Auburn's camp about this situation. Several committee members wanted Smart to coach in the BCS title game for free advertisement, while this was a major issue for Jacobs.

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As the debate rages on as to what was really the kicker for Kirby not getting the AU job, Shannon Terry had this to share. This is pretty interesting.

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According to sources close to Smart, Jacobs asked Smart if they offer the job and AU tells him he can't coach in the BCS title game would he still take it. Smart reportedly responded that he wouldn't want to work for someone who wouldn't want him to finish what he started. There was mixed feels from Auburn's camp about this situation. Several committee members wanted Smart to coach in the BCS title game for free advertisement, while this was a major issue for Jacobs.

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no idea if this is true or not but I've been told by someone pretty well connected that Jacobs is on his way out and will be replaced by Pat Sullivan as AD. No idea on a time frame for this to happen.

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So Smart demanded "full disclosure of the state of the NCAA’s current look-see"

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this is what I posted yesterday

and of course this was NYC's reaction to my post and you will have to scroll up,,, I laughed.

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Who does Smart think he is? Nobody gets those things from AU.

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Which is why they are stuck with Gus and the status quo.

I want to know what committee the article speaks of.

The coach search committee, of like 4 people? So Jacobs was the only one who didn't want him to coach the NC?

I had my reservations about Smart and none of them involved the fact he coached at Alabama, at least not directly.

I'll refrain from judgement until I see if Gus coaches in stAte's bowl game (which I don't think he is). It's possible Jacobs just wanted someone to come in immediately and I can see the logic there. If Jacob's didn't want him to coach because its bammer, well then that's just silly

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I want to know what committee the article speaks of.

The coach search committee, of like 4 people?

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Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. Wasn't Bo Jackson one of them? Don't know who else was in it.

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So Jacobs was the only one who didn't want him to coach the NC?

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That's sort of what Shannon implied, although it may not be totally true. He may have just been had the strongest objection to letting Kirby coach in the title game.

I know Saban let McElwain have an office for all his Colorado St stuff so he could get started on that as well as do his day-to-day stuff at Bama to prep for the title game last year. It would be interesting to know if Saban would have shown Kirby the same courtesy. Somehow, I doubt it, but you never know.

Honestly, I think it was probably a combination of all three issues that really sunk the deal. AU would have had to really humble itself to get that deal to go through and they didn't think Kirby was worth it.

I liken it to the situation we had with Saban. He had all the leverage and we gave him anything he wanted. Kirby went into this interview assuming he had all the leverage (because that's what his mentor did). From an outsider, AU is obviously in a bind right now. I can totally understand why he went in demanding those things. The power brokers at AU obviously don't think things are as bad as that, so they naturally denied all those requests and decided to keep the status quo.

I'd honestly be pretty angry if I were an AU fan. Maybe Kirby isn't the right guy, but any other coach worth having out there is going to want the same things he wanted. Otherwise there can be no change and it seems to me, AU needs change.

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Meh, for another thread, but Kirby is not a proven commodity. Alabama put a lot of effort into getting Saban and they knew he was their guy. He had already head coached LSU to championships, though.

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For being an unproven commodity, it just seems weird to me to go after a rival team's defensive coordinator and not expect that there would be some demands like that. I'm not blaming either side, but these are all things we as laymen could have seen from a mile away. I find it a bit baffling. It's just a charged and complicated situation any way you cut it.

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Spoken like a true bammer. Malzahn knowingly jumps into a job that's about to be crippled by NCAA sanctions when he has Arky State doing well and can probably jump to another good job in a year or two? That's retarded.

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Not much of a risk when you're tripling your salary and you yourself weren't a primary participant in any of the rules violations even though you were on the staff at the time. Given Auburn's ability to evade NCAA sanctions for numerous separate situations over the last few years that have tripped up many other programs it's a risk well worth taking. Malzahn would have to be a fool to pass up a 1.5 million dollar a year raise at a program that has plenty of potential.