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re: So everyone took the bait and reacted to LSU taking a coach from Ole Miss. But Florida
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:02 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:02 am to ibldprplgld
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Florida fans refused to believe or acknowledge but LSU’s job opening torpedoed their coaching search.
Why would we refuse to believe that when he ended up at LSU?
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:05 am to ManBearSharkReb
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Nah LSU opened their cheeks as wide as possible for Kiffin while Ole Miss and Florida were always gonna have guardrails on Kiffin. Your AD looks like Kiffin’s personal fluffer. Very embarrassing and sycophantic how much lsu has debased themselves for this fricking con artist.
Wow.
Are you saying we gave him "total control" of the program?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:13 am to Insurancerebel
quote:Oh, get off your high horse
Hush! LSU called him on the phone the day after they fired Kelly and he swore allegiance. We all know Kiffin is a man of his word.. He did not talk to Florida, his family didn't look at schools. He got a LSU tattoo the minute he got off the phone with LSU!
, y'all absolutely would have gladly kept him. We know you're pissed because he left, but it was a business decision on his part. He wanted to "do better" than Ole Miss, and it burns your arse to hear that. Just like it burned Tennessee's arse when he chose USC over them. I do imagine that Kiffin's refusal of Auburn earlier gave Ole Miss a false sense of safety.
I think in Kiffin's perfect world, the Alabama gig might be #1, but they aren't ready for him yet. Still in the post-Saban funk, and telling themselves Deboer can tweak the system and restore it. Probably about a decade out from acknowledging that the HC needs total control (as Saban had), to maximize success.
LSU and Florida are both in the 1A tier, capable of dominating football almost as much as Bama did under Saban. Florida may actually have the higher ceiling, but it's a miniscule difference if so. And as poster theCAW has noted, Florida is administratively a mess of jumbled politics and screws themselves up, while LSU just rebooted itself- brand new administration from the top down. Everyone's currently on the same page, and we're far enough removed from the glory days of Saban and early Les Miles to not cling to anything, while the Orgeron run showed we could still "have it". LSU acknowledged Kelly wasn't the right fit, ponied up and made a move.
I think Kiffin's plan (and LSU's hope) is to basically replicate the Saban/Miles era, where LSU is a notch higher than Georgia, and in the national mix yearly. I think he thinks he can win the big game more often than Miles did, and get 2-3 titles if things go well. Then, ride off into the sunset.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:16 am to Scoob
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I think Kiffin felt he'd done everything he could at Ole Miss
imagine being Kiffin and seeing the team you used to coach come within 1 game away from a national title opportunity that was then lead by a drunk.
his presence on the sideline could've been the deciding factor in the game. but he chose to be a diva instead. if he had stayed at Ole Miss and at a minimum participated in the national title game, he would've elevated Ole Miss to levels they had never seen before going forward. Ole Miss would have become a destination school like Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc. Not quite that high, but they'd be "in the room" with those schools.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:25 am to Insurancerebel
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Florida had a signed MOU from Kiffin, he signed it the week before or of the Florida game.
He could have very well had one with LSU as well.
Your takes are about as bad as ManBearShartPerson's.
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Saban was “never offered,” even after LSU basically tried to throw a decade of OLOL money at him. Kiffin will turn you down too, and y’all will magically decide he was never a target. Then you’ll pivot to Dan Mullen and claim he was the No. 1 choice from the jump.
I’m calling it now: all of you who’ve made 100 threads about Kiffin being your next coach will suddenly swear he was never contacted when he says no.
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“Jobs that weren’t great jobs before are now,” Saban said. “Lane is the first name up for Florida and the first name up for LSU, but I think you can have a long debate on whether either one of those jobs is actually better than the job he has now because he has some guys over there at Ole Miss that give him pretty much whatever he wants from a roster standpoint. He may not necessarily have the same thing at Florida or LSU. So you look at these jobs differently now."
You can see what he is saying, if you take off the purple and gold glasses. As many have pointed out, this is not 2009. Modern era.
Add to the factor, the freaking Gov is calling the shots, and he doesn't even know who his AD or President will be.
LK has seen how important it is to have the full support of the AD and President behind you.
Lsu really clustered this whole thing up.
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Lane Kiffin isn’t going to recruit high school kids hard. Just forget about that idea. If a kid can’t play right away, he’s not spending NIL money on him.
All that talk about “BK didn’t recruit Louisiana hard enough”? Multiply that by three when it comes to Kiffin.
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This is the new era of college football. LSU hasn’t fully adapted yet — and you’ll either adjust fast, or the Kiffin experiment will go up in flames.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:31 am to Scoob
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Florida is administratively a mess of jumbled politics and screws themselves up, while LSU just rebooted itself-
How anyone from LSU can point the finger at Florida and think the administration at LSU is better is beyond me. Unbiased observers KNOW LSU is a circus—and a fun one to watch—with the governor sticking his nose into football hirings, a $52 million buyout, a ridiculously stupid move to challenge the buyout, calling out the AD in national news for following LSU’s directives, etc. LSU is the epitome of administrative chaos!
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:34 am to ManBearSharkReb
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Nah LSU opened their cheeks as wide as possible for Kiffin while Ole Miss and Florida were always gonna have guardrails on Kiffin. Your AD looks like Kiffin’s personal fluffer. Very embarrassing and sycophantic how much lsu has debased themselves for this fricking con artist
Same guy you begged to stay? Same guy you went on and on about what a stand up family man he is, until he told you to frick off? Same guy you swore up and down was staying in Oxford? Be honest. You were one of those desperate fricks at Knox’s game begging him to stay, weren’t you? Dude you are by far the most broken Reb fan on this board. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:55 am to finchmeister08
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I think Kiffin felt he'd done everything he could at Ole Miss
imagine being Kiffin and seeing the team you used to coach come within 1 game away from a national title opportunity that was then lead by a drunk.
his presence on the sideline could've been the deciding factor in the game. but he chose to be a diva instead. if he had stayed at Ole Miss and at a minimum participated in the national title game, he would've elevated Ole Miss to levels they had never seen before going forward. Ole Miss would have become a destination school like Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc. Not quite that high, but they'd be "in the room" with those schools.
I understand what you're saying, but you even state the main point:
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Ole Miss would have become a destination school like Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc. Not quite that high, but
Kiffin's been around a long time, so we tend to forget... he's only 51. He's only 6 months older than Kirby Smart.
Saban was 48 when he took the LSU job, 55 when he took the Bama job.
Kiffin is still in the prime of his career, maybe really just coming into it. If he can pick anywhere, there's no reason to take "not quite as high" when he can still get a higher tier job. And, frankly, LSU is a higher tier.
Let's look at Kiffin vs Kelly- everyone acknowledged Kiffin had Ole Miss basically maxxed out. In contrast, everyone also felt Kelly was coasting at LSU, underperforming after his first season. Yet, we're a dropped pass in the endzone from Kiffin being 1-3 vs Kelly
So: one program is peaking, one is stagnant, and you have a 2-2 record, the one blowout was in LSU's favor, and LSU could have easily won a 3rd game. Hell, even last year's game, 11-1 Ole Miss vs 7-5 LSU, LSU dominated parts and if they get a late stop, have the chance to drive and win.
If Kiffin gets LSU to it's peak, the games will be one-sided in LSU's favor. Not a troll, simple matter of fact.
That's what Kiffin made his decision on, and not on a single season's chance.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:57 am to bigDgator
Refused. Past tense.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:00 pm to rebeloke
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So everyone took the bait and reacted to LSU taking a coach from Ole Miss. But Florida fans showed up in Oxford wearing T-Shirts bragging about watching their next coach. They were in full force at Knox’s football game. They believed they had their man.
Yep, and that's why they, just like you and the rest of the rebel cucks on here, are so butthurt.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:01 pm to Scoob
Kiffin could've been Ole Miss' version of Spurrier. that was my point although i didn't spell it out that way.
now, at LSU, he's going to be next to Saban, Miles, and O... probably.
now, at LSU, he's going to be next to Saban, Miles, and O... probably.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:06 pm to GarnetNBlack
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How anyone from LSU can point the finger at Florida and think the administration at LSU is better is beyond me. Unbiased observers KNOW LSU is a circus—and a fun one to watch—with the governor sticking his nose into football hirings, a $52 million buyout, a ridiculously stupid move to challenge the buyout, calling out the AD in national news for following LSU’s directives, etc. LSU is the epitome of administrative chaos!
Ask Florida fans about this.
They fired Napier first, so they had first shot at Kiffin, and honestly could have locked him down before LSU had the chance to get him. All they really needed to do was confirm he was interested, ask him what he wanted in order to move (assuming they want to win again), and finalize it. They bungled that.
What I think happened was, Kiffin did send signals out that he was ready to take the next step up (a Florida/LSU type of job) when Florida came open, and the initial process was pretty far apart... and LSU caught wind of it, and decided to jump. Fired Kelly, then cleaned house in the AD (and we have a new system president etc now too), and made our pitch.
I think if Florida knew they'd have been competing with LSU all along, they don't frick with Kiffin's requests nearly as much. They thought they had "exclusive rights", so to speak, and tried to negotiate harder. They rightly guessed Kiffin would leave Ole Miss, but didn't think he had another option to go to.
But then LSU came in after a round or 2 of negotiations and presented a better, and far more welcoming deal... "we're interested, what do you want in return?". And Florida was screwed by that.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:07 pm to rebeloke
No one cares
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:16 pm to Scoob
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They thought they had "exclusive rights", so to speak, and tried to negotiate harder
Oh, I’m not saying your take is way off. Far from it. You initially presented a reasonably fair assessment of how the situation may have progressed (who on here really knows?). It’s just your follow-up post came across as “LSU’s administration is so much better than Florida” when, in fact, LSU’s was a circus show for all to see!
It’s all good. We will see how Kiffin works out at LSU over the next few years. My guess is he will do fine from a football perspective.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:18 pm to NFLSU
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By most accounts? As in, Florida fans?
They truly believed Lane was going to go there all because he has a beach house in Florida and his ex-wife’s dad was buddies with Spurrier
Who is "they?" A handful of Florida fans that went to the Ole Miss game wearing some custom shirts?
Noted for the future that a handful of fans = the whole fanbase.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:23 pm to finchmeister08
quote:No, I get what you're saying. But let's be fair here-
Kiffin could've been Ole Miss' version of Spurrier. that was my point although i didn't spell it out that way.
Even Bear Bryant correctly predicted Florida could become a beast. He called them a sleeping giant. They have every resource you could ask for.
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"There's a sleeping giant down there. Don't poke that alligator. It's asleep. You won't like them when they wake up."
Spurrier was the coach that had them realize that potential.
Ole Miss isn't that. They're more like, say, Wisconsin or Michigan State... who, at their peak, was able to win a down Big 10 but could never become a true national contender. And when the big boys in that conference woke up (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan), they slid back into the pack. And now with expansion, there's more big boys (the SEC adding Oklahoma and Texas, while the Big 10 added USC and Oregon).
It's getting harder for the mid-tier teams to win a conference, because there are more big boys present now and they aren't all going to be down at the same time. The SEC is basically down, Alabama has fallen off, LSU is off, Oklahoma was off, Auburn and Florida are way off, Texas solid but doing Texas things (not winning games they should), Georgia a bit down from the recent past. Tennessee backpedaling, too. And even in this current situation, Ole Miss couldn't get to Atlanta.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:28 pm to finchmeister08
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Kiffin could've been Ole Miss' version of Spurrier. that was my point although i didn't spell it out that way. now, at LSU, he's going to be next to Saban, Miles, and O... probably.
Ole Miss’ version of Spurrier will never win a natty. He just won’t. It’s a second tier program. Has been since desegregation. Kiffin could (emphasis on could) be LSU’s version and win a natty. The programs just have different levels of resources. That is just a fact. That is why he took the job.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:29 pm to ForeverGator
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ForeverGator
Are you really going to try and convince everyone that it was “only a few Florida fans” that believed Kiffin would turn down LSU for Florida?
“Sumrall was our guy the whole time!!!”
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:41 pm to GarnetNBlack
quote:Fair point.
Oh, I’m not saying your take is way off. Far from it. You initially presented a reasonably fair assessment of how the situation may have progressed (who on here really knows?). It’s just your follow-up post came across as “LSU’s administration is so much better than Florida” when, in fact, LSU’s was a circus show for all to see!
Let's clarify- LSU looked like a circus in the media, randomly firing people, governor putting in his 2 cents, then trying to stiff Kelly on his buyout. That's a mess to you and me.
But to Kiffin's perspective, LSU's booster and backroom power players came together to remove Kelly, damn the cost, to make the job available for Kiffin. I don't think there was a remotely close 2nd choice. And it wasn't that Kelly was bad, he was going 9-3 and 8-4. He just wasn't moving things the direction LSU wanted, and didn't look like things would get better then OK.
So there was a united pitch of "we want to win titles, we think you can do that for us, what do you need to do that?", instead of "so you want to be our next coach, this is how it's going to be".
I think Florida did the latter, and they really aren't in the position to do that right now.
LSU's circus continues with the hiring of Will Wade in basketball, but again, the underlying theme is "we want a winner, we believe it's you, what do you need?".
And finally, for what it's worth, I'm not a big power broker, but I've seen some business moves, and even I can see things are getting optimized for NIL here. LSU is in good shape for this current mess.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:52 pm to NFLSU
Ok. I’ll throw a few more idiots into that bucket, like TheDumbassCAW.
Not the entire fanbase wanted Kiffin. I never once believed he was coming here. Did I want him for a minute? Sure. Mostly because he was the best available at the time.
I’m not sad to miss out on him. He wanted too much and I’m kind of glad the AD said no. But, Sumrall better work out. Kiffin is a clown show. It was a lose-lose situation.
Not the entire fanbase wanted Kiffin. I never once believed he was coming here. Did I want him for a minute? Sure. Mostly because he was the best available at the time.
I’m not sad to miss out on him. He wanted too much and I’m kind of glad the AD said no. But, Sumrall better work out. Kiffin is a clown show. It was a lose-lose situation.
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