re: So everyone took the bait and reacted to LSU taking a coach from Ole Miss. But Florida

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Hush! LSU called him on the phone the day after they fired Kelly and he swore allegiance. We all know Kiffin is a man of his word.. He did not talk to Florida, his family didn't look at schools. He got a LSU tattoo the minute he got off the phone with LSU!

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Oh, get off your high horse , y'all absolutely would have gladly kept him. We know you're pissed because he left, but it was a business decision on his part. He wanted to "do better" than Ole Miss, and it burns your arse to hear that. Just like it burned Tennessee's arse when he chose USC over them.
I do imagine that Kiffin's refusal of Auburn earlier gave Ole Miss a false sense of safety.

I think in Kiffin's perfect world, the Alabama gig might be #1, but they aren't ready for him yet. Still in the post-Saban funk, and telling themselves Deboer can tweak the system and restore it. Probably about a decade out from acknowledging that the HC needs total control (as Saban had), to maximize success.

LSU and Florida are both in the 1A tier, capable of dominating football almost as much as Bama did under Saban. Florida may actually have the higher ceiling, but it's a miniscule difference if so. And as poster theCAW has noted, Florida is administratively a mess of jumbled politics and screws themselves up, while LSU just rebooted itself- brand new administration from the top down. Everyone's currently on the same page, and we're far enough removed from the glory days of Saban and early Les Miles to not cling to anything, while the Orgeron run showed we could still "have it". LSU acknowledged Kelly wasn't the right fit, ponied up and made a move.

I think Kiffin's plan (and LSU's hope) is to basically replicate the Saban/Miles era, where LSU is a notch higher than Georgia, and in the national mix yearly. I think he thinks he can win the big game more often than Miles did, and get 2-3 titles if things go well. Then, ride off into the sunset.

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Florida had a signed MOU from Kiffin, he signed it the week before or of the Florida game.

He could have very well had one with LSU as well.

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Your takes are about as bad as ManBearShartPerson's.

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Saban was “never offered,” even after LSU basically tried to throw a decade of OLOL money at him. Kiffin will turn you down too, and y’all will magically decide he was never a target. Then you’ll pivot to Dan Mullen and claim he was the No. 1 choice from the jump.

I’m calling it now: all of you who’ve made 100 threads about Kiffin being your next coach will suddenly swear he was never contacted when he says no.

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“Jobs that weren’t great jobs before are now,” Saban said. “Lane is the first name up for Florida and the first name up for LSU, but I think you can have a long debate on whether either one of those jobs is actually better than the job he has now because he has some guys over there at Ole Miss that give him pretty much whatever he wants from a roster standpoint. He may not necessarily have the same thing at Florida or LSU. So you look at these jobs differently now."

You can see what he is saying, if you take off the purple and gold glasses. As many have pointed out, this is not 2009. Modern era.

Add to the factor, the freaking Gov is calling the shots, and he doesn't even know who his AD or President will be.

LK has seen how important it is to have the full support of the AD and President behind you.

Lsu really clustered this whole thing up.

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Lane Kiffin isn’t going to recruit high school kids hard. Just forget about that idea. If a kid can’t play right away, he’s not spending NIL money on him.

All that talk about “BK didn’t recruit Louisiana hard enough”? Multiply that by three when it comes to Kiffin.

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This is the new era of college football. LSU hasn’t fully adapted yet — and you’ll either adjust fast, or the Kiffin experiment will go up in flames.

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I think Kiffin felt he'd done everything he could at Ole Miss

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imagine being Kiffin and seeing the team you used to coach come within 1 game away from a national title opportunity that was then lead by a drunk.


his presence on the sideline could've been the deciding factor in the game. but he chose to be a diva instead. if he had stayed at Ole Miss and at a minimum participated in the national title game, he would've elevated Ole Miss to levels they had never seen before going forward. Ole Miss would have become a destination school like Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc. Not quite that high, but they'd be "in the room" with those schools.

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I understand what you're saying, but you even state the main point:

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Ole Miss would have become a destination school like Bama, LSU, OSU, Michigan, etc. Not quite that high, but

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Kiffin's been around a long time, so we tend to forget... he's only 51. He's only 6 months older than Kirby Smart.

Saban was 48 when he took the LSU job, 55 when he took the Bama job.

Kiffin is still in the prime of his career, maybe really just coming into it. If he can pick anywhere, there's no reason to take "not quite as high" when he can still get a higher tier job. And, frankly, LSU is a higher tier.

Let's look at Kiffin vs Kelly- everyone acknowledged Kiffin had Ole Miss basically maxxed out. In contrast, everyone also felt Kelly was coasting at LSU, underperforming after his first season. Yet, we're a dropped pass in the endzone from Kiffin being 1-3 vs Kelly


So: one program is peaking, one is stagnant, and you have a 2-2 record, the one blowout was in LSU's favor, and LSU could have easily won a 3rd game. Hell, even last year's game, 11-1 Ole Miss vs 7-5 LSU, LSU dominated parts and if they get a late stop, have the chance to drive and win.
If Kiffin gets LSU to it's peak, the games will be one-sided in LSU's favor. Not a troll, simple matter of fact.

That's what Kiffin made his decision on, and not on a single season's chance.

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So everyone took the bait and reacted to LSU taking a coach from Ole Miss. But Florida fans showed up in Oxford wearing T-Shirts bragging about watching their next coach. They were in full force at Knox’s football game. They believed they had their man.

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Yep, and that's why they, just like you and the rest of the rebel cucks on here, are so butthurt.

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How anyone from LSU can point the finger at Florida and think the administration at LSU is better is beyond me. Unbiased observers KNOW LSU is a circus—and a fun one to watch—with the governor sticking his nose into football hirings, a $52 million buyout, a ridiculously stupid move to challenge the buyout, calling out the AD in national news for following LSU’s directives, etc. LSU is the epitome of administrative chaos!

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Ask Florida fans about this.

They fired Napier first, so they had first shot at Kiffin, and honestly could have locked him down before LSU had the chance to get him. All they really needed to do was confirm he was interested, ask him what he wanted in order to move (assuming they want to win again), and finalize it. They bungled that.

What I think happened was, Kiffin did send signals out that he was ready to take the next step up (a Florida/LSU type of job) when Florida came open, and the initial process was pretty far apart... and LSU caught wind of it, and decided to jump. Fired Kelly, then cleaned house in the AD (and we have a new system president etc now too), and made our pitch.

I think if Florida knew they'd have been competing with LSU all along, they don't frick with Kiffin's requests nearly as much. They thought they had "exclusive rights", so to speak, and tried to negotiate harder. They rightly guessed Kiffin would leave Ole Miss, but didn't think he had another option to go to.
But then LSU came in after a round or 2 of negotiations and presented a better, and far more welcoming deal... "we're interested, what do you want in return?". And Florida was screwed by that.