re: So A&M was left in the dark, then fiercely fought against expansions…then bent the knee?

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there is literally no way to approach this without looking bad.

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I agree A&M was put in a situation that whatever they did was subject to criticism by someone and they had no power to stop it.... but they lost their dignity even more by voting yes.

If someone comes home and finds the guy that bullied them in HS fricking the wife should he send an expensive gift if they end up getting married?

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but they lost their dignity even more by voting yes.

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I don't agree. A&M would be the fool of fools if they didn't try to protect their monopoly on the SEC brand in Texas.

Their "yes" vote isn't a dignity diminishing move imo, in fact, quite the opposite. It's what good partners do when they've had their say and realize they will not get their way. We do this often at my company it's very helpful.

Turning disagreements into long-term bickering and backstabbing is exactly what imploded the Big12 in the first place.

It would have made them look worse to not vote for expansion and have a 13-1 in favor vote.

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but they lost their dignity even more by voting yes.

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Agree to disagree. And no vote does nothing but make us look like disgruntle shits, especially when it does nothing.

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If someone comes home and finds the guy that bullied them in HS fricking the wife should he send an expensive gift if they end up getting married?

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That is a terrible analogy for the circumstances. This is not a marriage, it's a business arrangement.

A better analogy would be a partner in a business firm (A&M, aka "Partner A"), had a terrible experience doing business with an individual at another firm and the other partners worked behind the scenes to bring that untrustworthy individual in as a new partner without informing Partner A. In fact, it's not really an analogy. That's exactly what fricking happened.

But, the other partners saw a potential for huge profits by the addition, especially with rhe other new partner coming with. They showed the direction of the industry as a whole is shifting and explained the potential to Partner A. They assured Partner A that they would not allow the new guy to pull the shite he did before. With those assurances and the profit projections being clear, Partner A put aside his emotions and joined in the business decision to give unanimous consent, for the good of the firm.

We got done dirty. But in the end we might end up in a better position than anybody. Our roster is better than it's ever been, and we therefore stand a great chance to pull even further ahead of the sips by kicking their arse on the field every year.

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I don't agree. A&M would be the fool of fools if they didn't try to protect their monopoly on the SEC brand in Texas.

Their "yes" vote isn't a dignity diminishing move imo, in fact, quite the opposite. It's what good partners do when they've had their say and realize they will not get their way. We do this often at my company it's very helpful.

Turning disagreements into long-term bickering and backstabbing is exactly what imploded the Big12 in the first place.

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I was typing something along those lines, but you beat me to it.

This is exactly how it should work in a partnership.

I know most of these motherfrickers are on here want to troll, but it looks like many do not understand how business works.

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They tried to demand more say in this process than other sec schools I heard. That’s a pretty pathetic thing to do if true.

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Meh. A&M was told they would have veto power when we came to the conference. Obviously things change and this is a much bigger picture now but I don't think it is unreasonable that A&M was pissed and felt betrayed to an extent.

At this point every Aggie I know has moved past it and is looking forward. We can't stop it so what is the next phase in a long game? A virtue signal "no" vote losing 13-1 and causing more of a rift potentially with other schools does nothing really.

What is going to be interesting is A&M would definitely like this to wait until 2025. 3 years of limbo for Texas and OU is going to be a huge recruiting negative for them.

It was also important for A&M to get the attention off of us and back on to Texas and OU in regards to this move. Texas has some serious damage control problems with the 3 leftover schools, ESPECIALLY Tech. They just screwed over the 3rd largest Public school in Texas and are set to bankrupt their AD. Tech has already been raising hell for a long time about wanting access to the PUF money which they have a strong argument for (Texas endowment is $31 Billion, A&M is around $13 Billion, Tech is $1.5 Billion and most of the land with all those lovely oil wells in the PUF is actually much closer to Tech geographically.

In the end Texas is coming to the SEC and nothing is stopping that. The best thing the Ags can do is move on and worry about capitalizing on our Top 5 season from last year and just watching Texas squirm and figure out what kind of payoffs they are going to have to make to the other schools to settle the lawsuits and more importantly deal with the politics.

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But tell your buddies to stop coming in here trying to erase the true narrative. You guys fought this and fought it hard.

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Of course. Absolutely.

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Tried to bitch slap the sec.

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Link?

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When that fight failed, you got in line and voted yes.

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Like business partners do.

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That’s what happened. Business is ugly sometimes and it was not your best moment.

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Exactly.

So why are you trying to spin this into something it's not?

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there is literally no way to approach this without looking bad.

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This could describe every endeavor undertaken by Texas A&M.

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Why did Ross Dork go to media days if they were just going to fold over?

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Because aggie thought they had the stroke to stop this.

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They tried to demand more say in this process than other sec schools I heard.

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Same thing happened in the Big 12. A&M voted for teams to retain their tier 3 rights, voted against a conference network and rejected an offer from Texas to have a network just for those 2 schools. They are still bitching about the consequences of their own decisions.

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The majority of the sec wanted this and you tried to trump the majority by veto power.

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Link?

You can pull whatever shite out of your arse you want, but there is no evidence of any of that.

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I’m not spinning anything. I’m just laying out the truth. That’s what you guys are doing.

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Which is what? Objecting? Trying to persuade others to vote it down?

HOW INSIDIOUS AND PETTY!!!

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But it doesn’t matter now. It’s done and I agree let’s move on.

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We are way ahead of you on that one. But, agreed.