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re: So a guy was paying players to sign with him as a financial adviser once they went pro

Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:14 pm to
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If they were paid before turning pro and entering the draft, it would be a violation of NCAA rules.



You're absolutely right. It is a violation.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:14 pm to
A difference is these players probably aren't at Alabama anymore.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:17 pm to
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He didn't pay them to return for their senior season because Penn State wanted them to, to make the football team better, they likely didn't know about said payments.


But they did know


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Former financial adviser Marty Blazer, testifying for government, said in 2009 he had a NFL player as a client whose father was a Penn State assistant. Said that assistant asked him to pay a Penn State player’s father $10,000 so player would stay at PSU and not enter NFL Draft.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:17 pm to
I missed that part.
Posted by madddoggydawg
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:18 pm to
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Blazer testified that he did so at the encouragement of a Penn State assistant coach who informed Blazer that the player's family was under some financial distress. The payment was by check and the transaction happened at the home of the Penn State coach. At the time, Penn State's head coach was Joe Paterno. Blazer noted this meeting was arranged by a Nittany Lions assistant and made no reference to any other Penn State coach.
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"The coach wanted the player to consider staying," Blazer said. "The player was leaning on coming out."

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The NCAA previously uncovered and investigated much if not all of of what Blazer testified to doing at UNC. The NCAA punished North Carolina by placing its football program on probation, banning the Tar Heels from a bowl game in 2012, stripping it of 15 scholarships and forcing UNC to vacate all victories from the 2008 and 2009 seasons.
So I’m not wrong, he paid for a Penn St player to stay in school and his payments to a UNC player brought sanctions on the school.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:18 pm to
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I missed that part.


Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:20 pm to
I read the Alabama related parts, I dont care about something that happened at Penn State 14 years ago.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:22 pm to
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Absolutely. But that was in 2002. LJ left in 2003. The NCAA statute of limitations is 4 years. PSU is definitely safe.


Appears so
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:31 pm to
Aren’t you the guy that gives us shite about Chuck Person??



Because this is literally the exact same thing
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:33 pm to
I haven’t went back on his post history related to will Wade but I bet it’s a good one
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:34 pm to
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Appears so




The only coach implicated was from PSU, but he's been gone for many, many years. Even if he had been involved multiple times, I can't see the NCAA going back on that one.

Also, why the hell did Larry Johnson Sr. need $10k?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:40 pm to
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Aren’t you the guy that gives us shite about Chuck Person??


I was unaware that any Alabama asst. coaches got arrested over this incident.

Also this doesn't involve players who are currently at Alabama, unlike Auburn's.


Not exactly the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:40 pm to
Antonio langam scenario... no not a big deal in the common sense world but if they receive money to sign with anyone once the go pro but are still playing that’s a big violation. How do you know if bama wasn’t directing them to get money from them till they go pro? Easy way to get players money and on the hook once they go pro.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:43 pm to
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How do you know if bama wasn’t directing them to get money from them till they go pro? Easy way to get players money and on the hook once they go pro.


Probably would've already came out, I am sure the NCAA already knew the scope of what this guy did before he testified today, he came clean years ago when they investigated him.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:45 pm to
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Also, why the hell did Larry Johnson Sr. need $10k?


I misread that at first too, but I think Larry Johnson SR asked blazer to pay the Penn players father and not himself. I also, if I keep reading that tweet over and over because it is written bad, say that LJsr hooked up another Penn St assistant with Blazer to pay the players father they wanted to keep from entering the draft.

Larry Johnson Sr was just the connection because of his son being signed by Blazer.
Posted by Rabern57
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:47 pm to
The worst part is that the more noise the story makes the more likely others will start talking (even if just for the attention that they know something). It's not like Bama cheating is well hidden. Hell the rug has been against the ceiling from everything swept under it.
Posted by Blueprint
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:50 pm to
Against the rules, dogg.
Posted by Rabern57
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:51 pm to
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I was unaware that any Alabama asst. coaches got arrested over this incident.

You're probably also unaware Saban has had staff members busted (and admitted) for paying players.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:54 pm to
Rabern is triggered.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Rabern is triggered.

Rabern is correct.

You are triggered.

Alabama is fukt.
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