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re: So a guy was paying players to sign with him as a financial adviser once they went pro
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:57 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:57 pm to lsufball19
A lot of people care that work in the industry. It's against the rules and he should never be able to work in the industry again. The next progression of this type of behavior would be him embezzling money. A lot like Bernie Madoff who coincidentally also went to Bama for a couple of semesters.
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:58 pm to Cadello
Show me Nick Saban on wiretap saying he made Tua a stong arse offer and then you'll have something that piques my interest.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:00 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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but this quote in no way says when he paid the players.
Not sure how the timeline is relevant to the OP, but he was paying them sometime between 2010 and 2014. All told, the payments to players of all schools covered the period from 2000 to 2014. (PSU, for example would have been 2002. UNC would have been 2009.)
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:02 pm to genro
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That's what Langham did and we got hammered
It's a different era now.
With everything going on with basketball and now football, every school is going to get a pass. Unless, a coach, school booster or official pays a player or player's family.
You can't punish a school for a 3rd party paying players to sign with them after they stop playing for a school.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:03 pm to CrimsonFever
He did admit paying a PSU players father 10K so he wouldn't enter the NFL draft. The player ended up going to the draft anyway, and claims the father eventually paid him back.
Still a major violation.
Still a major violation.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:03 pm to tigerskin
Sounds bad.
For Penn St
For Penn St
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:04 pm to remaster916
He admitted to paying a player to stay another year at the school. I would be worried about all of those good Bama juniors that returned for their senior year.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:05 pm to MykTide
He didn’t go into detail about the other named schools.....yet
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:06 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Still a major violation.
Absolutely. But that was in 2002. LJ left in 2003. The NCAA statute of limitations is 4 years. PSU is definitely safe.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:07 pm to tigerskin
Probably saving the biggest school for tomorrow.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:08 pm to CrimsonFever
OP is right on. A guy outside the program paying guys in the program to sign with him after leaving school is not even remotely the same thing as a head coach admitting on tape to paying a recruit to sign with the school. It's pathetic that LSU fans are equating these two things.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:09 pm to Evolved Simian
He was paying them to go back to school so they would wait an extra year to enter the draft, improve their stock, and eventually make more money that said financial advisory could get.
He didn't pay them to return for their senior season because Penn State wanted them to, to make the football team better, they likely didn't know about said payments.
Statute of limitations has run out regardless.
He didn't pay them to return for their senior season because Penn State wanted them to, to make the football team better, they likely didn't know about said payments.
Statute of limitations has run out regardless.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:09 pm to Evolved Simian
I may have misunderstood your reply I will admit, but for the OP to "yawn" over players possibly being paid to choose Blazer when they turn pro is silly. If they were paid before turning pro and entering the draft, it would be a violation of NCAA rules.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:10 pm to tigerskin
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I would be worried about all of those good Bama juniors that returned for their senior year.
Nope. Four years is the limit. This happened 5 years ago.
The only exception would be if he had testified the university or coaches were involved in a pattern. The only coach he mentioned was from PSU.
Guess how many coaches Alabama has left from 5 years ago? Saban, and he's smarter than Will Wade. He sure as hell doesn't take phone calls from bagmen himself. You get peons to do that shite for you.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:10 pm to CrimsonFever
Wrong. The Penn State assistant asked him to pay it
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:10 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Isn't this similar to what happened in the Auburn situation recently where the assistant Bball coach was arrested?
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:12 pm to Hugh McElroy
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A guy outside the program paying guys in the program to sign with him after leaving school
That is not what happened in some and maybe all cases. The players were still in school, and some, maybe all, had not yet declared for the draft and were paid while still considered to be amateur athletes.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:12 pm to Evolved Simian
Nope. There are exceptions to the statute of limitations. Has been covered extensively in other threads.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:12 pm to CrimsonFever
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Statute of limitations has run out regardless.
I saw Mikey BigHouse from al.com saying as much earlier today.
He's probably right.
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The NCAA doesn’t typically investigate allegations of violations after four years. There are four exceptions to that, according to the NCAA website.
The eligibility of a current student-athlete
A pattern of willful violations that began before the four-year window but continue into the four-year window or
A blatant disregard for certain fundamental rules (recruiting, extra benefits, academics, ethical conduct) or
An effort to conceal violations.
Any such allegation of cash payment to a player or recruit would qualify as an extra benefit but would it be considered “blatant disregard” for the rule?
Of course, that is all for discussions down the road if that road even materializes.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:13 pm to CrimsonFever
Yes, and the players were grounded for a year if I recall.
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