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re: SI: SEC teams to use Sam as a recruiting negative
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:19 pm to sbrian3915
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:19 pm to sbrian3915
Gotta keep perpetuating the ESPN agenda..
They're not gonna let this Michael Sam topic rest until the draft which sucks
They're not gonna let this Michael Sam topic rest until the draft which sucks
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:20 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
everyone here knows who Thayer Evans is and nobody is reading his article except you.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:20 pm to KCMIZSEC
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I didn't read that article, but can somebody help me out with how other schools will use this as a negative against Missouri in recruiting?
The quotes we're to the effect of "why did they cover it up?" and "what's mizzou hiding" and "are they a secret society." Kinda deal. The suggested ways coaches would go about is not by attacking Sam or being gay but just painting Mizzou as untrustworthy by raising questions like that.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:21 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Fair nuff. And I'm on board too with him being a lying scummy POS. I don't know the details of how the Ok State thing shook down except I remember a lot of OSU people running around saying "Hey I never did that/ hey I did not say what it says I said in the article" sort of thing. But there were others in his OSU article who did at least say yes they said what was attributed to them. Its definitely amazing that Thayer still has a job in this business at this point, but my only take is all that being said it doesn't necessarily mean we know conclusively that those quotes are bullsh**. Possibly to probably, but we can't know for sure unfortunately.
Thayer's trasgressions date back to way before the OK State article. I think the thing he got canned over was a story on high school football in New York if someone else can confirm this, but the Ok State stuff was just the latest in a long line of misdeeds.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:26 pm to Prof
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The quotes we're to the effect of "why did they cover it up?" and "what's mizzou hiding" and "are they a secret society." Kinda deal. The suggested ways coaches would go about is not by attacking Sam or being gay but just painting Mizzou as untrustworthy by raising questions like that.
Bottom line to that tactic though is its fairly straightforward that Sam could have told the media at any time he wanted, just like chose to at the specific time this past weekend. Even if Mizzou had deliberately tried to cover it up somehow, what the heck could they coerce him with if he disagreed and wanted to come out? Were we going to force the SEC Defensive Player of the Year to sit on the bench and potentially cost ourselves wins as a result? In that regard it seems pretty common sense that when Sam says this is the exact time when he wanted to announce to the world and not before or after, he means it. Hopefully recruits and their families understand that too.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:27 pm to sbrian3915
The story doesn't make sense because outside of arkansas SEC teams don't recruit against Mizzou.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:28 pm to Prof
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The quotes we're to the effect of "why did they cover it up?" and "what's mizzou hiding" and "are they a secret society." Kinda deal. The suggested ways coaches would go about is not by attacking Sam or being gay but just painting Mizzou as untrustworthy by raising questions like that.
And that's such BS, Sam himself said the the and staff were great, and the timing was all his choice. I won't give the guy the hit of reading his article. He's FOS. And if someone out there negative recruits Mizzou over this, they are a pathetic loser of. I have no respect for anyone whom would negative recruit anyway - if the only way you canals yourself look good is to try and make someone else look bad? You're pitiful.
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:31 pm to sbrian3915
do SEC teams other than Vandy and Moo State even need to negative recruit against Mizzou?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:35 pm to sbrian3915
Any article that uses anonymous sources as the basis of the article are all subject to suspicion imo. Especially in today's world of sensationalist journalism.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:35 pm to Dr RC
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do SEC teams other than Vandy and Moo State even need to negative recruit against Mizzou?
Specific answer: up toward and on national signing day we were locked in recruiting battles with UGA for Tavon Ross and Nate Brown; also with Bama for Ross; with Florida for Zanders and McWilliams; had to flip Andy Bauer out of his verbal commitment to Ole Miss; had to hold off Tennessee for Ish Witter and Paul Adams, etc.
So yes, other teams than Vandy and Moo State do need to recruit against Mizzou. Whether they do so negatively is up to them.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:36 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Make no mistake, this was a very calculated move by Sam and probably his agent to get out ahead of the story and own it rather than it be written about in national media *without* him coming out
I've heard his agent interviewed twice now and Sam wanted to wait until after the Draft to announce.
Then he went to the Senior Bowl and realized by the questions he was being asked that the cat was out of the bag. Things intensified and he moved it up twice more, culminating in the announcement Sunday.
As far as negative recruiting... Who really gives a damn? It's not like it's not going on everywhere.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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The story doesn't make sense because outside of arkansas SEC teams don't recruit against Mizzou.
Sure they do. And Missouri's bringing it to a neighborhood near you.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:39 pm to Prof
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The quotes we're to the effect of "why did they cover it up?" and "what's mizzou hiding" and "are they a secret society." Kinda deal. The suggested ways coaches would go about is not by attacking Sam or being gay but just painting Mizzou as untrustworthy by raising questions like that.
Oh ok. That makes sense I suppose. Why should the university and/or team not disclose everybody's sexual preferences to the media. Those crooked sonsabitches. The nerve of them...trying to protect their student athletes.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:49 pm to KCMIZSEC
It also suggested it could get really nasty like when the Va. Tech massacre happened and apparently some recruiters suggested to recruits that there were gun-toting mad men everywhere at VT. And of course, the recruiter said he'd never personally use such nasty tactics but he thought others would/might.
Of course, recruiters claim all kinds of stuff goes on but never do name who is doing it - makes you wonder how much of it is just recruiters talking negative about other recruiters rather than actually saying any of the crazier things to recruits themselves.
Of course, recruiters claim all kinds of stuff goes on but never do name who is doing it - makes you wonder how much of it is just recruiters talking negative about other recruiters rather than actually saying any of the crazier things to recruits themselves.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:50 pm to roadhouse
I know I won't bother clicking the link.
I already despise SI's site anyway.
I already despise SI's site anyway.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:55 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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would get canned and sued for making up quotes that didn't exist...
No college program will sue a journalist today. Too much discovery could unearth some secrets like HS transcripts changing, suits, chargers, Church contributions, iPhones, etc
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:56 pm to KCMIZSEC
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I didn't read that article, but can somebody help me out with how other schools will use this as a negative against Missouri in recruiting?
Why do other SEC teams even need to negatively recruit against Missouri? No offense, but Mizzou is not exactly a recruiting power.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:04 pm to IowaTigerHawk
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Why do other SEC teams even need to negatively recruit against Missouri? No offense, but Mizzou is not exactly a recruiting power.
Maybe the two whole teams we out recruited this year?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:07 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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had to hold off Tennessee for Ish Witter and Paul Adams
Ish Witter was never on our board. Adams had been recruited by Elder at Cincy and so had contact with him at UT as well but we never made much of an effort to get him.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:17 pm to IowaTigerHawk
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I didn't read that article, but can somebody help me out with how other schools will use this as a negative against Missouri in recruiting?
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Why do other SEC teams even need to negatively recruit against Missouri? No offense, but Mizzou is not exactly a recruiting power.
Most recruiting sites had 7 (SEVEN) SEC teams that finished with top 10 classes last week. I don't think those teams needed to negatively recruit Mizzou to pull in that talent. Just sayin.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 4:17 pm
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