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re: Shane Beamer yells at every single USC female athlete on national TV
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:29 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:29 am to FooManChoo
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The only reason why anyone is concerned with his reaction is because of the focus of the celebration that led to the delay.
Thank you for being reasonable. It was very obvious yall were going to win, but he still has to coach a game. He still is trying to put his team in the best position to be successful. Its already hard enough playing UGA.
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:35 am to Jon Ham
Does anyone think that Beamer wouldn’t have chewed out a bunch of males? Pick a lane. Are women delicate flowers that need special treatment or are they strong and independent?
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:36 am to Jon Ham
Get those broads off the field
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:38 am to Jon Ham
I blame the school's administration for this. They should have put Coach Boom in charge of crowd movement. He would of had every female athlete from the past, every female athlete for the near future and every female athlete in the SEC setting in their seats with 15 seconds to spare.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:04 am to Jon Ham
Perhaps they should have honored them during a volleyball game instead.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:47 am to Glorious
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Are women delicate flowers that need special treatment or are they strong and independent?
it depends Glorious
they are strong as shite and independent as hell and they need safe spaces to curl up in - why can't you understand this?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:52 am to Glorious
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Does anyone think that Beamer wouldn’t have chewed out a bunch of males?
I mean we can't possibly know if he would or wouldn't. But for argument's sake, let's say he would. He's still a dumbass who would be blaming the people who had nothing to do with it. Do you want them to trample over each other to get back into the stands?
Do you yell at the person at the cash register when your BigMac doesn't have extra pickles? Or blame the customer service rep when Comcast is down?
He threw a childish tantrum at the people who weren't responsible for what was happening on the field.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:54 am to Jon Ham
He was mad because those women found the endzone and his team couldn't.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:15 am to Jon Ham
Did he not yell at the married ones?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:15 am to GregAl
Doesn't matter, Beamer is in over his head.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:18 am to Jon Ham
All the dudes here who are too scared to raise their voice at their women are creaming because a grown man yelled at a bunch of 18-22 year olds.
It was funny as shite watching him throw a fit like a 2 year old.
It was funny as shite watching him throw a fit like a 2 year old.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:22 am to Jon Ham
As many girls as there were on TV and I am sure we did not see all of them why would you not have a ceremony like this before kick off?
Get them out there and get them off before play starts.
Get them out there and get them off before play starts.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:27 am to PerrillouxToTexas
quote:He didn't "blame" anyone on the sidelines that I recall. He was just yelling at those on the field to get off of the field, since having people on the field what was causing the delay. That's a reasonable response given that he didn't know who was there and why they were there.
I mean we can't possibly know if he would or wouldn't. But for argument's sake, let's say he would. He's still a dumbass who would be blaming the people who had nothing to do with it. Do you want them to trample over each other to get back into the stands?
quote:The "yelling" is meant to express frustration at the company by the person having the problem. The person doing the yelling doesn't normally care if the company representative they are talking to is the specific person who is at fault. They are expressing their concern to that representative in an effort to have a problem fixed.
Do you yell at the person at the cash register when your BigMac doesn't have extra pickles? Or blame the customer service rep when Comcast is down?
In IT, incident management as a process for service restoration when a disruption occurs. The goal is to restore service (fix the issue), and then once that has been resolved and the incident is over, you focus on the problem management process, which is understanding root cause and fixing the true cause so that the disruption doesn't occur again.
By way of analogy, the girls on the field were the incident that Beamer was bringing attention to, and the scheduling and execution of the celebration is the problem that needed to be addressed with a root cause analysis and prevention plan.
quote:He expressed his frustration at the delay, yelling at people who were causing the immediate delay (even though ultimately they weren't at fault) to get off the field. That's not unreasonable for someone who was impacted by the delay and who didn't have all the information at the time.
He threw a childish tantrum at the people who weren't responsible for what was happening on the field.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:29 am to Jon Ham
South Carolina should’ve been penalized for this event
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:35 am to FooManChoo
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The "yelling" is meant to express frustration at the company by the person having the problem. The person doing the yelling doesn't normally care if the company representative they are talking to is the specific person who is at fault. They are expressing their concern to that representative in an effort to have a problem fixed.
In IT, incident management as a process for service restoration when a disruption occurs. The goal is to restore service (fix the issue), and then once that has been resolved and the incident is over, you focus on the problem management process, which is understanding root cause and fixing the true cause so that the disruption doesn't occur again.
By way of analogy, the girls on the field were the incident that Beamer was bringing attention to, and the scheduling and execution of the celebration is the problem that needed to be addressed with a root cause analysis and prevention plan.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:41 am to FooManChoo
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By way of analogy, the girls on the field were the incident that Beamer was bringing attention to, and the scheduling and execution of the celebration is the problem that needed to be addressed with a root cause analysis and prevention plan.
In healthy organizations that demand a modicum of professionalism, you don't act like an a-hole during an incident, because it breeds contempt and risks lowering morale and engagement.
Since incidents are often more complicated than they appear on the surface, you don't want to see stakeholders throwing their weight around to get the symptoms fixed by brute force, because that can cause unnecessary second order effects that make things worse.
Did Beamer yelling at them get them off the field faster? Maybe by 15 seconds, maximum. Did he invite a whole bunch of unnecessary bad publicity in the media and social sphere? Absolutely.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:42 am to PerrillouxToTexas
This is so stupid. This would be a non story if they were men
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:43 am to Jon Ham
There were 77K people in the Stadium at the time. Did the OP want him to whisper?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:44 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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This is so stupid. This would be a non story if they were men
And Beamer doesn't have the EQ to realize that.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:51 am to PerrillouxToTexas
quote:He was screaming at the people on the field to get off the field. That sort of thing happens all the time. He wasn't being an "a-hole". When coaches see the play clock running out and their QB isn't paying attention, they do a lot of screaming at the QB. Does that risk lowering morale and engagement? Potentially, but coaches have to act that way to instill discipline.
In healthy organizations that demand a modicum of professionalism, you don't act like an a-hole during an incident, because it breeds contempt and risks lowering morale and engagement.
"Professionalism" is relative to the profession. It's standard for coaches to yell. Let's also mention that he was standing in the middle of a giant bowl filled with thousands of people making noise. Yelling is necessary if you want someone to hear you.
quote:It depends on what the incident is and how it needs to be resolved. If the incident involves people on the field, using "brute force" (yelling?) to get those people off the field seems reasonable. The service (game) was disrupted and it needed to be restored (the delay stopped). Yelling at people on the field to get off the field is entirely reasonable in that situation. It occurs all the time in sports for various reasons. The only thing unique about this situation was that it was celebrating feminism.
Since incidents are often more complicated than they appear on the surface, you don't want to see stakeholders throwing their weight around to get the symptoms fixed by brute force, because that can cause unnecessary second order effects that make things worse.
quote:He did what most coaches would do. He didn't do anything particularly offensive to my knowledge. The only reason why it resulted in bad publicity is because the group that interfered with the game was celebrating a politically-charged issue, that Beamer didn't know about.
Did Beamer yelling at them get them off the field faster? Maybe by 15 seconds, maximum. Did he invite a whole bunch of unnecessary bad publicity in the media and social sphere? Absolutely.
As others have said, this is a complete non-issue that was made an issue because everyone wants to make everything political.
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