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re: SECN worth $4.77B
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:06 am to 5thTiger
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:06 am to 5thTiger
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First off....not for second-tier games. Almost all your high value games get shipped to ESPN or CBS.
The SEC Network IS the same thing as ESPN. They purposefully push games that otherwise would be on ESPN1 or 2 to the SEC Network in order to artificially boost the value of that network. Sure CBS takes the absolute cream off the top, but that is a very small part of the total SEC football inventory. ESPN knows what they are doing when it comes to leveraging the value of football properties.
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Cable in general has its value dropping.
Sure because DVRing has destroyed the value of TV advertising (forcing companies like CBS or ABC to try and get by on cable fees). But the last golden egg cable TV has now that HBO can be had without cable is live TV sports. Nothing like football can make 18-35 year old males pay their entire cable bill. Nothing.
Hell that is how ESPN got the distribution of the network to be so high so quickly- it sold it as the cure for cord cutting to cable companies.
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College football games alone are not enough to drive an entire networks value.
Well that is obviously the case. A decent part of the SEC Network's value is not just football, it is also live basketball games.
But don't kid yourself, original programing will never be a primary revenue driver for the SEC Network. The fortunes of the network will rise and fall with the quality of the conferences football (primality) and basketball product.
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:07 am to texag7
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You're welcome
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:13 am to Tigerjackswartz
It would be worth 10B if they didn't show the Finebaim show.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:53 am to 5thTiger
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As for the show in general. 4 hours of anything that isn't a game is stupid. You could show two separate movies in that time span.
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It would be great if they did some historical programming and some educational programming. I watch PBS and they do put some engaging shows on. Would also love "Modern Marvels" type programming for structures and teams at all 14 campuses. Lots of history in the early days of the SEC, SoCon, and SIAA which could all make cool documentary subjects for SEC storied type shows.
In the off season a 1/2 hour per team show on cooking up local foods would be most excellent. It is a blend of semi "live" programming that should not cost much and get through the dead month to two in the summer.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:06 pm to Tigerjackswartz
I know everyone here is probably being billed for it, but does anyone actually watch the SECN? I forget it's there most of the time.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:08 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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I know everyone here is probably being billed for it, but does anyone actually watch the SECN?
I watched it daily during the fall, winter, and spring.
Once baseball ended, not so much
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:11 pm to 5thTiger
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Part of that is simply the conferences nature. They load up on football, and lack other quality sports programming.
Saw tons of basketball, baseball and Olympic sports on SECN. And not just games. Lots of behind the scenes and interviews.
Make no mistake though, even with the B1G Network only one sport sells, gets more viewers and pays the bills for these other sports to even have a platform of the conference network.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:15 pm to secuniversity
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Make no mistake though, even with the B1G Network only one sport sells, gets more viewers and pays the bills for these other sports to even have a platform of the conference network.
Basketball is a much bigger deal as well...certainly not as big as football...but much larger than in the SEC.
Baseball is much bigger in the SEC, but college baseball in general doesn't get any viewership outside the CWS. If I'm not mistaken, Wrestling and Hockey on the B1G network outperformed baseball on the SECN.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:19 pm to Tigerjackswartz
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SECN worth $4.77B
It's crazy that most of their employees make minimum wage.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:23 pm to Stonehog
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It's crazy that most of their employees make minimum wage.
No, what is crazy is the studios are in ACC lands and staffed by ACC grads instead of being in SEC lands staffed by SEC grads.
If those ACC grads are getting minimum wage, that would actually be pretty funny.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:27 pm to 5thTiger
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That value will drastically drop if they don't find quality programming outside of football games.
there are no Nielson ratings yet but the SECN+ data extrapolated suggests the baseball games broadcast on SECN rival ESPNU football broadcasts (it's highest ratings throughout the year) as far as viewers
Just because you don't watch something doesn't mean others don't
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:30 pm to TeLeFaWx
LSU cancelled the series with two games remaining after the 1995 game in College Station.
That move sparked some friction between the schools, which contributed to them not renewing the series. With the SEC going to a divisional format and eight conference games in 1992, then-LSU Athletic Director Joe Dean said he couldn't afford to give up one of three non-conference home games every year.
"You've almost got to have seven home games to pay the bills," Dean said. "That's all it was. Some of the A&M people felt because we were losing to them we didn't want to play anymore.
"It was peaceful, friendly. It wasn't ugly. I thought we'd wait a few years and reschedule them when we could manipulate the home-and-home series with the SEC."
Crow had a different point of view.
"I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."
LSU eventually refused to play the final two games and the schools settled the matter for $100,000. Attempts by LSU to renew the series have been rebuffed, insiders say, because of lingering hard feelings over breaking the contract.
That move sparked some friction between the schools, which contributed to them not renewing the series. With the SEC going to a divisional format and eight conference games in 1992, then-LSU Athletic Director Joe Dean said he couldn't afford to give up one of three non-conference home games every year.
"You've almost got to have seven home games to pay the bills," Dean said. "That's all it was. Some of the A&M people felt because we were losing to them we didn't want to play anymore.
"It was peaceful, friendly. It wasn't ugly. I thought we'd wait a few years and reschedule them when we could manipulate the home-and-home series with the SEC."
Crow had a different point of view.
"I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."
LSU eventually refused to play the final two games and the schools settled the matter for $100,000. Attempts by LSU to renew the series have been rebuffed, insiders say, because of lingering hard feelings over breaking the contract.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:35 pm to TeLeFaWx
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They need more content on the network, IMO. I don't mind Finebaum, I think he engages the audience, does great interviews, and is more balanced than people give him credit for... But it's not enough for a whole network.
I wish I saw this for every school every week.
I agree. Why have a conference network and not have weekly, school specific programming? Dumb.
It certainly beats the 5th replay of the 20 Best Games of the Year.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:42 pm to GFaceKillah
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"You've almost got to have seven home games to pay the bills," Dean said. "That's all it was. Some of the A&M people felt because we were losing to them we didn't want to play anymore.
So one road game over a two year stretch was going to hurt your bills? Y'all were that broke? Or maybe your coach flatly stated he couldn't build a winning program starting 0-1, and your AD is just giving a PC excuse. The game in 1996 would have been in Baton Rouge, giving y'all 8 home games that year. In 1997 you could have played at College Station, and STILL kept all 7 home games. Nothing is stupider than people quoting that article when they try to defend running away from Texas A&M. It defies all rationality.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:48 pm to TeLeFaWx
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"I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:51 pm to Tigerjackswartz
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BTN worth about a third of that
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:57 pm to Mizz-SEC
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I agree. Why have a conference network and not have weekly, school specific programming? Dumb.
I agree, with the new adds say do a program on journalism so if kids like the show they may wind up in Columbia. Do another program on petroleum engineering so if kids like it they may wind up in College Station. Each SEC school has a program they excel at so why not have a 1/2 hour or hour show to spotlight it - you could even drop the school specific ad in as commercials.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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They need more content on the network, IMO.
Why they haven't launched Hard Knocks style docs for the major sports, I'll never know. Yeah, no teams would want to participate (probably), but the conference can mandate it. Finish in the bottom 4, you have to agree to the coverage, unless someone else above you agrees or you were forced to participate within the last 4 years or whatever.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:02 pm to Cheese Grits
Here are some program ideas that i have:
Game Of The Week Breakdown
SEC Road Show
A SEC Sports Century type show
SEC Cribs (JK)
A morning radio talk show
Game Of The Week Breakdown
SEC Road Show
A SEC Sports Century type show
SEC Cribs (JK)
A morning radio talk show
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:04 pm to Cheese Grits
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No, what is crazy is the studios are in ACC lands and staffed by ACC grads instead of being in SEC lands staffed by SEC grads.
If those ACC grads are getting minimum wage, that would actually be pretty funny.
Maybe for the studio shows. All the games are filmed by current SEC students making $7.50 an hour.
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