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re: SEC Tournament - Coronavirus related

Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:15 pm to
No. Just stupidity.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:15 pm to
It’s the disease.
Chronic WilliamTaylor Disease
Posted by krandor
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:16 pm to
I doubt SEC tourney goes fanless but by next week for NCAAs it is very possible
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:18 pm to
They probably aren’t hiding it per se but the reason it’s going to seem like the sky is falling to a lot of people these next few days is the increase in testing and the more open communication of incidents.

As we move to a strategy of handling an existing pandemic instead of trying to prevent one, testing will be performed more liberally and people will be allowed to speak more openly.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Not likely. Not enough cases in the area to warrant action.



Not necessarily true. They have already shut down the entire AT&T building. There has also been no testing down what-so-ever. No one really knows the extent of those who might be infected and not know it.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Let’s see it


Trump budgets that were passed didn't have cuts to the CDC budget according to an AP fact check. Yet, the propaganda that "Trump slashed the CDC's budget" continues to get repeated even though a quick google search shows otherwise...

LINK
Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
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They probably aren’t hiding it per se but the reason it’s going to seem like the sky is falling to a lot of people these next few days is the increase in testing and the more open communication of incidents.



It's just odd that downtown has only shut down the largest building in the area, but business as usual for literally every adjacent building. I think they are definitely hiding something.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
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LINK

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Trump’s budgets have proposed cuts to public health, only to be overruled by Congress, where there’s strong bipartisan support for agencies such as the CDC and NIH. Instead, financing has increased.


quote:

Some public health experts say a bigger concern than White House budgets is the steady erosion of a CDC grant program for state and local public health emergency preparedness — the front lines in detecting and battling new disease. But that decline was set in motion by a congressional budget measure that predates Trump.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
You proved his point.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
Meetings are underway right now by every business & educational institution on what kind of response they will take once the 1st case is detected.

Shut down an entire office tower? For how long? What kind of disinfectant and janitorial measures will be taken when a university or office closes? How much disinfecting and cleaning can be done to eradicate the virus and when will people get back to school/work?
Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Meetings are underway right now by every business & educational institution on what kind of response they will take once the 1st case is detected.


This is the problem. A first case is all but certain. Why wait and expose more people?
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:30 pm to
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You proved his point.




Huh? Did you think I was trying to prove something with that? I was taking out the two most important parts from that link imo because I know some won't click that.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18220 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Fair enough. I shouldn't have brought politics into in the other thread but my response
Didn't mean to single you out, I just hit the reply button under the post to get in this cursed thread
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:40 pm to
Didn’t realize you were talking about Nashville until just now. Wasn’t Nashville exposed early due to the Vandy student coming back from Italy.

If there is a case they should definitely inform the public so they can exercise caution if they might have had an encounter (or so they can announce that no community interaction occurred to calm people down).
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6912 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Didn’t realize you were talking about Nashville until just now. Wasn’t Nashville exposed early due to the Vandy student coming back from Italy.



Yeah, and a confirmed case INSIDE the AT&T building. Yet all other business are working like normal.

quote:

If there is a case they should definitely inform the public so they can exercise caution if they might have had an encounter


Whomever infected the AT&T building was definitely exposed to countless of other people downtown. It is among us, yet there has been zero communication.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9113 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:29 pm to
Good idea to post actual quotes from the link since you're correct that most people won't click on and read a link.

The bottom line from the link I posted is that not only did the budgets passed under Trump not cut CDC funding, the CDC's funding was actually increased. Granted, I suppose people can criticize Trump for proposing cuts that were ignored by Congress but the bottom line is the budget for the CDC ultimately didn't get cut.

The grant that helped state and local CDC offices prepare for such events as the current one is phasing out but again as the article points out the moves that led to that predate President Trump's administration. It would be fair to criticize the current administration if they don't consider doing whatever is necessary from this point forward to renew or replenish the program mentioned in the second quote though.

Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1808 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:41 pm to
You guys think they will still let fans know for this? I am say no way. The NCAA is recommending against any fans. Imagine if these conferences carry on as usual and then people get infected because of it. Seems incredibly risky from a backlash stand point.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:37 pm to
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The load of flaming bull#### you just posted (especially the bolded part) is precisely why some of us on here are so critical of the media's reporting on this virus and is why some of us feel it's necessary to make a political point over a situation that shouldn't be political.

The media's "Trump's slashing of the CDC budget is why we find ourselves in this situation narrative is an blatant utter bull#### lie that has been clearly debunked by the AP no less. The fact that you and others unquestionably believe it enough to spread the lie is why many of us are right to criticize the media's coverage of the virus.

The lack of widespread testing is a valid criticism of the administration. Thankfully, Trump greatly limited/banned travel to and from highly affected regions starting in late January thus limiting the potential exposure here in our country. Other than adequate test kits which admittedly has been a failure, the administration has done everything reasonable in it's power to limit the health and economic damage in this country.

The media lie you parroted about Trump slashing the CDC budget (when in reality the budget was increased) is why the media in this country is rightly criticized and called "fake news". The fact that so many people unquestionably believe everything the media feeds them because they're that gullible or it supports their anti-Trump narrative/agenda is why their often false reporting is do dangerous and effective. You obviously fell for it.


I realize choosing an Ostrich strategy is an avenue some will go down, but I'll avoid turning this Pandemic into a poli discussion.

Test more...we are correcting the mistakes made at the Federal level to address this issue.

Limit contact...social distancing, containment when warranted and quarantine when necessary all seem appropriate.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9113 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
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You guys think they will still let fans know for this? I am say no way. The NCAA is recommending against any fans. Imagine if these conferences carry on as usual and then people get infected because of it. Seems incredibly risky from a backlash stand point.



It does seem a little risky to have a large crowd at the SEC tourney so I wouldn't fault the league for having a fanless tournament just to be safe.

The incubation period for the virus seems to be a couple of weeks before symptoms show up so maybe having as many as people and students as possible work from home and
have people avoid large public gatherings for the next 3 or 4 weeks while testing everyone with even minor symptoms to rule them out as infected will be worth it to greatly prevent it spreading.

I'm ok with being greatly inconvenienced for the next month if doing so will help this hysteria pass in a few weeks.

Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:47 pm to
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I'm ok with being greatly inconvenienced for the next month if doing so will help this hysteria pass in a few weeks.


Unfortunately, this is what we should have done weeks ago to prevent this thing from being anything bu a footnote in our country's history, but our political system tends to be reactive instead of proactive, so here we are.

We will still have close to a month of [likely increased] inconvenience to save as many people as possible and to reduce the damage to our economy.

At this point, people will die and our economy is going to suffer.

I'm hopeful that we will rise to the occasion as Americans and work together to greatly limit the damage and move on. The fact that I'm hearing stories of people still being reckless and doing things like going to work sick is troubling.
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