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re: SEC says Devin White decision will stand (article linked)

Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by barkerl500
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:50 pm to
this ain't it chief
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35261 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:50 pm to
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LSU fans are more furious than I have ever seen.
TBH, the SEC would have really benefited from reinstating him. Now the narrative continues. It would have been a smart move by them to at least enforce an appeal process.

Whats funny is that most fans even agree that it's ridiculous for a player to get ejected for such a small thing. He could have knocked him unconscious and gotten the same penalty. There's something fundamentally wrong with the rule.

I would say the same thing if it were an Alabama player in the same situation. Regardless of what some of the crazies on here think.
Posted by barkerl500
Member since Feb 2018
46 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:54 pm to
are you serious? im upset about the call but a billboard is just sad
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62763 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:01 pm to
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I agree with Carville

This is where you should have stopped.

Or better yet, just prior.
Carville is a huge dick.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:12 pm to
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This is where you should have stopped.


I didn't say I agreed with everything Carville said.

But he's absolutely right that Sankey is like the Pope and he could do something if he wanted to.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14804 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:13 pm to
Carville has political views which I along with a majority of southerners disagree.

However, he's a die-hard LSU fan and a good man who doesn't let politics define his life - he's married to a hardcore conservative.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:22 pm to
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TBH, the SEC would have really benefited from reinstating him.


No...they wouldnt.It creates an absurd prescedent.You cannot overturn as decision made on the field that was reviewed on replay.

UGA got screwed on a 4th down targeting that gave Vanderbilt the game winning TD in '13.If "reviewed" by the office,the outcome of the game gets changed.You really want games decided 3 days later in the commissioner's office?
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13121 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:27 pm to
They can, but they would have to admit they were wrong which they won’t do.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Big Bang Rookie
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
769 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:29 pm to
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You guys should do another GoFundMe.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11366 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:30 pm to
Was in class here at bama with the daughter of the Ref that kicked Devin out and she told me (with a wink) that he will be working the game next week.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:34 pm to
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They can,


What?Since when?


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which they won’t do.


No...what they won't decide the outcome of games in the league office ON A JUDGMENT CALL...how do you not get this?
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35261 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:38 pm to
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You really want games decided 3 days later in the commissioner's office?
No. Just future ejections.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62763 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Carville has political views which I along with a majority of southerners disagree.

That is not why I call him a dick. Hannity is a dick, too.
don't let his affiliation with LSU skew your view of his real personality.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:45 pm to
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No. Just future ejections.


Doesn't work that way.If you "reinstate" a ejected player that means you admit your wrong about the initial call.If that initial call changed the outcome of the game,it means you change the outcome in the league office.

This entire discussion is idiotic.

Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35261 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:54 pm to
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Doesn't work that way.If you "reinstate" a ejected player that means you admit your wrong about the initial call.If that initial call changed the outcome of the game,it means you change the outcome in the league office.
Then you (as many in the media has suggested) have 2 levels of targeting. The lesser not causing an ejection. Letting that have the ability to be reviewed from a serious to a not as serious penalty. Meaning the 15 yard penalty still stands, but the future ejection is overturned.

For a penalty this serious, something needs to be done. Do you think it's right to eject and suspend a player for what White did? For basically pushing a player? There's something fundamentally wrong with the rule when you can knock a guy unconscious and get the same penalty, no?
Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:07 pm to
Should have hit him like the Tennessee QB and then punched him silly and let coach O apply the internal discipline just like the SEC let Saban do.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:08 pm to
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For a penalty this serious,


A penelty is a penalty...doesn't matter who it's on
or how it effects the team the following week."Seriousness"should never be a factor invloved in any call.Doesn't make a difference if it's NC game or
an irrelevant G5 game.

quote:

wrong with the rule when you can knock a guy unconscious and get the same penalty, no?


For fricks sake ,are we now gonna have "degrees" of a penelty?
How bout holding, clipping or pass interference?

The rule on targeting is to not hit the guy in the first place.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35261 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:14 pm to
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A penelty is a penalty...doesn't matter who it's on
or how it effects the team the following week."Seriousness"should never be a factor invloved in any call.Doesn't make a difference if it's NC game or
an irrelevant G5 game.
Well, that's fine if that's your position. I (and many others) heavily disagree. Knocking a guy unconscious and pushing a guy should never have the same penalty because he tilted his head forward. If you disagree with that, then talking to you is a waste of time.
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For fricks sake ,are we now gonna have "degrees" of a penelty?
How bout holding, clipping or pass interference?

The rule on targeting is to not hit the guy in the first place.
For a penalty that has a punishment this strong, yes. Yes it needs to be handled differently. Because the nature of the punishment is different as it is. It stands by itself. So yes, it needs it's own set of rules.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted by rtr1985
Member since Jul 2011
727 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:30 pm to
Please elaborate on how LSU will convince college football to change based on your teams sour experience lmao I'd love to see more of this "Biggest shite storm it can imagine", and it's sequel. Just what magical power do you think LSU holds?
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25485 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:35 pm to
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Uh no there is not . Just because some swamp trash idiot posted it on the trant and some other swamp trash idiot reposted it several times doesn't make it true.



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It’s in the NCAA rule book


That rule refers to targeting in situations where there is no replay in the stadium.

If there is replay, as in this case, then the replay is the final call.

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