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re: SEC NC in Big 3 Sports

Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:23 pm to
And you're wrong. Ohio St claims 1961 based solely on the FWAA and no one gives them shite for it. You obviously didn't click the links I posted, oh well.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4661 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:27 pm to
Do you not know how to read? They don’t teach that in public schools in Oklahoma?

*before you say anything about Arkansas HS I went to a private school in Memphis for HS

If they recognize every poll why does OM claim 3 and NCAA gives them one? Explain that?

Glad your opinion doesn’t matter and 99% of the world disagrees.

Hell even 90% of Bama fans recognize it.

Try again little boy
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:36 pm to
Not sure how legit LSU's 1935 basketball title claim is. The generally agreed consensus amongst blue bloods is pre-NCAA tournament (1939) the Helms titles are what are considered legit.

For 1935, that went to NYU. In the interest of fairness, UK was awarded it in 1933 and we do not claim it or hang anything mentioning it anywhere. Kansas tries to claim them, because it gives them two additional in an attempt to try to stay neck and neck with Kentucky and North Carolina.

My personal opinion is, as a Kentucky fan we don't give a frick about Helms titles. So NYU can kick rocks. I had no idea LSU had made such a claim.

If you LSU baws want to claim '35 then frick it, have at it boys
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5016 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:40 pm to
I know the history of how the college football national championship works. FWAA and NFF are second tier selectors. They don’t carry the weight the AP and UPI does. Anytime national championships are brought up during game telecasts, the numbers are based on wire polls. Ohio State has 6. 1961 belongs to Alabama outright. 1970 is Nebraska and Texas. I don’t care about NFF and FWAA. A lot of people are the same way.

As I said, and I’m not the only one; 1936-2013 is AP and UPI/Coaches/BCS. That’s the way it has always been. Arkansas=ZERO! Deal with it swine.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4661 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:53 pm to
Deal with the fact you are on your own Island.

Your GF or Wife 110% left you for an Arkansas guy to move to NWA and get out of $hity Oklahoma.

I’m sorry man.

It will be ok. Plenty of fish out there even for you ugly people
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4661 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:55 pm to
LSU doesn’t have a NC in 1935.

Their fans are the only group to give them that claim and most of them don’t claim that

No publication gives them that.

LSU needs to update their basketball wiki because it doesn’t even have it
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:45 pm to
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I know the history of how the college football national championship works. FWAA and NFF are second tier selectors. They don’t carry the weight the AP and UPI does. Anytime national championships are brought up during game telecasts, the numbers are based on wire polls. Ohio State has 6. 1961 belongs to Alabama outright. 1970 is Nebraska and Texas. I don’t care about NFF and FWAA. A lot of people are the same way.

As I said, and I’m not the only one; 1936-2013 is AP and UPI/Coaches/BCS. That’s the way it has always been. Arkansas=ZERO! Deal with it swine.

"Of all the No. 1 awards currently in existence, the three that are most eagerly sought - and all about equally - are those of the Football Writers, the UPI, and the AP." - 09/11/67 Sports Illustrated, pg 34

https://vault.si.com/vault/1967/09/11/43168#&gid=ci0258bf5b200b26ef&pid=43168---040---image




Mic. Drop.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Not sure how legit LSU's 1935 basketball title claim is. The generally agreed consensus amongst blue bloods is pre-NCAA tournament (1939) the Helms titles are what are considered legit.

For 1935, that went to NYU. In the interest of fairness, UK was awarded it in 1933 and we do not claim it or hang anything mentioning it anywhere. Kansas tries to claim them, because it gives them two additional in an attempt to try to stay neck and neck with Kentucky and North Carolina.

My personal opinion is, as a Kentucky fan we don't give a frick about Helms titles. So NYU can kick rocks. I had no idea LSU had made such a claim.

If you LSU baws want to claim '35 then frick it, have at it boys

Even the LSU grads who run their Wiki page don't claim it. Not recognized by the NCAA and SEC. So yeah, officially worse than Bama's 1941 claim.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Deal with the fact you are on your own Island.

Your GF or Wife 110% left you for an Arkansas guy to move to NWA and get out of $hity Oklahoma.

I’m sorry man.

It will be ok. Plenty of fish out there even for you ugly people

Idiot is so flustered he thinks I'm an Arkansas fan.
Posted by tb27688
Member since Jul 2011
1201 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:53 pm to
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Glad y'all won a natty and don't have to hear that shite anymore. It's impressive when y'all compete as well since you have to split your 3 million up with ole pissy.


Not really. We go to places like Alabama,Tennessee, and Louisiana and get who we want.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41454 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:15 pm to
I think we should only count championships in the modern era, and in my opinion the modern era started in 1981.

Everybody good with that?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I think we should only count championships in the modern era, and in my opinion the modern era started in 1981.

Everybody good with that?

I was about to ask why 1981. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:20 pm to
This thread was the first I'd ever heard of it. Like I said I'm not gonna argue if they want to claim but I'd sure as hell never heard of LSU having a claim to that.

Helms titles are the only legitimate means of title claiming pre-NCAA tournament.

And to be fair, while the NCAAT started in 1939, the NIT was considered the more prestigious of the two tournaments at the time.

UK won the NIT in '46 and '76. The '76 obviously doesn't matter, but if we wanted to be insecure like Bama and claim titles, we could actually very legitimately add the '33 Helms and '46 NIT to our count and have 10 titles.

You do that and then look at how UK is number one in just soon many fricking CBB categories and all of a sudden the "hurr durr but UCLA has 11" stops.

Anyway that got way off subject. I don't think this LSU title claim is remotely legitimate based on anything any basketball blue bloods use but more power to em if they want to try.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72204 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

but if we wanted to be insecure like Bama and claim titles, we could actually very legitimately add the '33 Helms and '46 NIT to our count and have 10 titles


If Alabama claimed titles the way they’re accused of, they would claim more than 18.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33190 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:01 pm to
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Texas

quote:

I’ll stop claiming it when they remove it 



Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5016 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:21 pm to
You sure do get defensive. You can’t handle truths so you result to petty insults. Arkansas has ZERO and that’s life. If you want to see what primary selector national championship trophies look like for 1964, visit Tuscaloosa and get a pic. Hell, you can photoshop Arkansas on the trophies if it makes you feel better. Now, fetch me some chicken at AQ chicken house and go to bed piggy.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4661 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:50 pm to
I’m sorry buddy. I hope you get laid again in your life.

Hate your gf or wife left you for NWA. AQ on college hasn’t been open in 15 years. This isn’t Norman kid. We are a legit town.

Again, sorry for your loss and sorry for your loss that you are in the .5 perfect of idiots in the world. Bama fans nor the world agree with you.

Stay away from that Indian casino and focus on pleasing your next girl.

It didn’t work for the last one you had
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4661 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:54 pm to
Boy we just need a baseball one and we get that Florida graphic.

It’s coming.

Please your woman next time. They won’t leave you for NWA if you do
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5016 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:58 pm to
AQ in Springdale you dolt. You sure are obsessed with some Indian casino. Did you lose your life savings there? Did your sister, I mean wife leave you? I’m sure you can land some position over in Bentonville.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21281 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:00 pm to
When you have a bunch of teams that are either unbeaten or with one loss splitting national championships, they are mythical without a true playoff to determine a champion. It is why the BCS and eventually the playoff had to come to existence because the old ways were dumb. Letting human voters determine a champion screwed over a lot of teams.
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