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Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:12 pm to
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Y’all don’t claim it though.. why is that?


AP is 64 and 65 asshoe
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8069 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:16 pm to
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AP is 64 and 65 asshoe

Per NCAA and per Wikipedia it is not claimed. I can add it if others agree that Arkansas claims it.

I know this is that funky year where they temporarily changed the rules for the bowl games..
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:17 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:19 pm to
Yeah 65 is claimed by Bama (AP) and Michigan St (Coaches). No one else.
Posted by AsphaltFunk
We Know
Member since Oct 2010
1739 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:21 pm to
You forgot women’s golf
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41180 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:22 pm to
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Got one in 1934


It was in 1935
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:26 pm to

I'll take '69 from UT if you're handing out trophies
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:30 pm to
According to Chicken Texas has only 2 natties in football and OU only has 1.

Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5006 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:30 pm to
Your national championship 101 skills need help in football. You are obviously looking at a site to make your list. I don’t need a list. I know what’s legit and not legit. I’ll take you to school sometime.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:33 pm to
Google:

1935 ncaa basketball champions

And tell me what you see.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8069 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:35 pm to
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Your national championship 101 skills need help in football. You are obviously looking at a site to make your list. I don’t need a list. I know what’s legit and not legit. I’ll take you to school sometime.

Nobody got time for that Booshit! But yes I used the two links above for most of it.. if it’s wrong, feel free to let me know.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21223 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:35 pm to
Rothman fact named Arkansas a split champion in 77.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8069 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:40 pm to
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Google:

1935 ncaa basketball champions

And tell me what you see.


I have added it.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8069 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Rothman fact named Arkansas a split champion in 77

Wikipedia shows 1977 as unclaimed.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21223 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:45 pm to
Lost the bowl game. It would be very tough to make an argument that Arkansas should be the champion. The reason Arkansas lost is because the starting QB got a shoulder injury in the second quarter and didn't return. The offense sputtered with just 7 points.

A better argument would be the 77 team.

Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21223 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:49 pm to
Yes Arkansas doesn't claim it but Rotham named them a split champion. Considering how wild that year was and a perfect year for a playoff, it would be better to have split champions.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5006 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:50 pm to
Just because a selector names a program a national champion doesn’t mean they get a national championship for that year.

Pre-AP titles are not recognized by a lot of people, especially media. Schools will claim what they want to. But it is known that pre-AP claims usually centered around playing in the Rose Bowl. Although there was no official selector before 1936, the Helms Athletic Foundation and National Championship Foundation are widely considered the most recognized.

Since 1936 and 1950, the Associated Press and UPI/Coaches/BCS titles are the most recognized selectors. The National Football Foundatuon (MacArthur Bowl) and Football Writers Association of America (Grantland Rice Trophy) are second tier honors but programs do recognize them as adding them to their totals. BUT they are not as legitimate as the AP and UPI/Coaches/BCS.

There are programs who claim titles who don’t officially have them but should have them. That’s another subject on its own.

Programs to claim titles in the AP era that were not awarded by the AP or UPI:

1938 Tennessee
1939 USC (claimed in 2004 offseason)
1941 Alabama (Bama fans here don’t like it)
1942 Georgia
1947 Michigan
1950 Tennessee (they should have it)
1952 Georgia Tech
1958 Iowa
1959 Ole Miss
1960 Ole Miss (deserved it)
1961 Ohio State
1962 Ole Miss
1964 Arkansas
1966 Michigan State
1970 Ohio State
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8069 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:50 pm to
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Lost the bowl game. It would be very tough to make an argument that Arkansas should be the champion. The reason Arkansas lost is because the starting QB got a shoulder injury in the second quarter and didn't return. The offense sputtered with just 7 points.

A better argument would be the 77 team.

Arkansas should claim 1965. If the rules hadn’t been changed for that year only, Arkansas would have been the champs. Alabama is going to claim it either way, but so should Arkansas. Just my opinion..
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5006 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:53 pm to
It’s not about Alabama claiming it. The AP named them national champions. Michigan State won the UPI prior to bowl loss.
Posted by Hateaggy
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jul 2021
18 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:59 pm to
Aggy can't claim a title in football that they have not won only one was in 1939.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:01 pm to
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1 LSU 1935 *


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