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Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:43 am to Irons Puppet
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You see HS in the South going to AT, mainly for cost savings.
I almost wonder if they actually save that much money. My high school (in Memphis) installed field turf in the mid 2000s and I believe recently replaced it. I feel like it costs close to a million to install field turf on a football field, and if schools are replacing them every ten years, is it really saving them that much money? I know our "grounds crew" were a bunch of day laborers and the guy who oversaw everything doubled as an assistant baseball and football coach. Granted I am completely ignorant to all of the other costs that go into maintaining a grass field, but would it really exceed 100k/year?
I can certainly see the argument for a college because they put a lot more time and effort into maintaining grass fields and the quality expectation is much greater. But for a high school?
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:48 am to 1801
Doug's rug. Another brilliant move by one of the worst coaches ever.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:57 am to SammyTiger
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Maybe just a pillow field to protect your players from bobos.
it's mainly opponents whining soooooo it's really to provide a safe place in Neyland for all of yall.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:13 pm to lsufball19
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Granted I am completely ignorant to all of the other costs that go into maintaining a grass field, but would it really exceed 100k/year?
A good artificial turf is pretty expensive these days but it takes more than grass to have a good turf field. Setting one up correctly for both good irrigation and good drainage can be difficult. Then, there are "tweener" states where it is too hot for northern grasses and too cold for southern grasses to do well.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 1:53 pm to ALA2262
Sanford is naturally irrigated by tanyard creek. We also have a kick arse turf management program
Posted on 8/5/17 at 1:59 pm to TT9
The 1990 Alabama-LSU game was the last game in Bryant-Denny to be played on artificial turf.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Sanford is aligned the way it is because that's the way the creek/ravine under the field runs.
Jordan Hare is the same way. There is an underground Creek running the length of the field.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:04 pm to lsufball19
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I almost wonder if they actually save that much money. My high school (in Memphis) installed field turf in the mid 2000s and I believe recently replaced it. I feel like it costs close to a million to install field turf on a football field, and if schools are replacing them every ten years, is it really saving them that much money? I know our "grounds crew" were a bunch of day laborers and the guy who oversaw everything doubled as an assistant baseball and football coach. Granted I am completely ignorant to all of the other costs that go into maintaining a grass field, but would it really exceed 100k/year?
I can certainly see the argument for a college because they put a lot more time and effort into maintaining grass fields and the quality expectation is much greater. But for a high school?
In Texas, we have a public school finance system that would make Rube Goldberg jealous. In this crazy system, there is actually some incentive for schools to shift expenses from maintenance to capital improvements when possible, thus the stampede for even the smallest schools to go to field turf.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 6:50 pm to wareaglepete
quote:Besides, y'all don't have to mow it...you just turn the cattle out on it...kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Jordan-Hare has never had artificial turf. We are an AG school, that would be an abomination.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 6:58 pm to borotiger
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Then, there are "tweener" states where it is too hot for northern grasses and too cold for southern grasses to do well.
That is our problem. Bermuda grows great for the first half of the season but is toast at some point in October most years and by November every year. Northern grasses struggle until the same time frame.
We used to use Bermuda, but in early cold winters it was awful and every year it was bad for the last couple home games. The orientation of the field and shape of the stadium further complicates things because the southern half of the field gets no sun by late fall. Back when there was no southern end zone it was easier.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:10 pm to lsufball19
I don't think it's a huge money saver for high schools, but for many it's almost necessary with as many teams that use the field. Often soccer and lacrosse use the same field as football, it would be a nightmare if not for turf, plus grass needs a competent grounds crew
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:54 pm to coachcrisp
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Jordan-Hare has never had artificial turf. We are an AG school, that would be an abomination.
Besides, y'all don't have to mow it...you just turn the cattle out on it...kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
I heard that is why they cancelled the "running of the Gumps". That much weight at one time destroyed the grass the rest of the season. I remember BDS had the worse turf of any Power 5 Conference team.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:20 pm to joechristoppher77
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I don't think it's a huge money saver for high schools, but for many it's almost necessary with as many teams that use the field. Often soccer and lacrosse use the same field as football, it would be a nightmare if not for turf, plus grass needs a competent grounds crew
Oddly enough my old high school has separate fields for all three sports. I think the baseball field is artificial as well now that I think about it
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:35 pm to lsufball19
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Oddly enough my old high school has separate fields for all three sports. I think the baseball field is artificial as well now that I think about it
Most larger HS have separate fields for all sports today.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:41 pm to Irons Puppet
You know what I learned in this thread?
I've long said that between State and Ole Miss, there were only six degrees that were worth a damn outside the state line of Mississippi. Turf Management at MSU was one of those.
But it seems that LSU, Auburn and Georgia have just as good or better turf management programs. So the list falls to five.
I've long said that between State and Ole Miss, there were only six degrees that were worth a damn outside the state line of Mississippi. Turf Management at MSU was one of those.
But it seems that LSU, Auburn and Georgia have just as good or better turf management programs. So the list falls to five.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:51 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Bluegrass is beautiful for lawns but makes for a shitty football field. No other grasses grow well for football fields either. Our athletic department stubbornly persisted with natural grasses for decades until finally giving up when plans to renovate Kroger Field were made. The AT is spectacular. The new baseball field will be AT, too.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:58 pm to Kentucker
A&M, the Ag school and cow college of Texas, had turf at Kyle Field.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:12 am to anc
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You know what I learned in this thread?
I've long said that between State and Ole Miss, there were only six degrees that were worth a damn outside the state line of Mississippi. Turf Management at MSU was one of those.
But it seems that LSU, Auburn and Georgia have just as good or better turf management programs. So the list falls to five.
Auburn played its last national championship game on turf developed at Mississippi State and licensed through another company. When it comes to field turf State still stands out.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:23 am to Sancho Panza
quote:stuff apparently shatters feet bones.
ArKansas currently has fuzzy concrete in both their stadia.
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