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SEC football Attendance is dropping... how do we stop the bleeding
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:39 pm
2107 saw the largest drop in 34 years. Attendance among the 129 Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) teams in 2017 was down an average of 1,409 fans per game from 2016. The SEC has slipped an average of 2,926 fans per game (3.7 percent).
Every Power 5 conference saw attendance decline in 2018 too. For the seventh time in eight years, numbers dipped. College football attendance has now sunk to its lowest mark in 22 years.
Mr Paul talked about it today.
There are many reasons as to why the drop or decline
- Cost: tickets, gas, lodging, food (out to eat as well as concession food) etc.. Most P5 schools require booster fees before you can purchase tickets. However, I can select a game to go to and just by those tickets from somebody and save a ton.
- Ways to view a game have increased and all games are televised. Heck... you can watch on your phone driving down the road. There are no regional locks anymore. I can Watch Bama world wide baby.
- nobody wants to attend games knowing the outcome or knowing the end of the season results. In other words, it's not competitive. Every year, we know who is going to be in the playoffs. Every year we know... we may get a surprise.
- Students show the biggest drop off. What do you expect in today's everybody deserves a trophy world?
How do we fix that?
- Costs... Supply and demand should take care of it.
- Nobody is going to give up the TV revenue. NOBODY. And they shouldn't. Viewership is actually up... but that's not putting butts in the seats and nobody wants to play to an empty, half empty stadium. People need a reason to be there....
- Competitive.. If Vandy has a shot to beat Bama, Vandy would sell out. We all know it. We also know that under the current system, that will never happen. There is simply noway for Vandy to recruit at the level of Bama. The NFL has 53 men on the roster of which only 46 can dress out.
So we know a smaller roster works. In College you are allowed 85. 85!! That is 7 less than what 2 NFL teams are allowed to dress out.
To make the game more competitive, the NCAA needs to address this. There is no reason why we can not drop this to 60-70. You take away 20 of the players from the top 10 recruiting schools, and those player end up spread out.
- Student attendance. Again, make the game competitive and students will show back up.
EDITED: Thanks Sky
Every Power 5 conference saw attendance decline in 2018 too. For the seventh time in eight years, numbers dipped. College football attendance has now sunk to its lowest mark in 22 years.
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Big issue today is college football attendance. Why are the numbers declining?
Mr Paul talked about it today.
There are many reasons as to why the drop or decline
- Cost: tickets, gas, lodging, food (out to eat as well as concession food) etc.. Most P5 schools require booster fees before you can purchase tickets. However, I can select a game to go to and just by those tickets from somebody and save a ton.
- Ways to view a game have increased and all games are televised. Heck... you can watch on your phone driving down the road. There are no regional locks anymore. I can Watch Bama world wide baby.
- nobody wants to attend games knowing the outcome or knowing the end of the season results. In other words, it's not competitive. Every year, we know who is going to be in the playoffs. Every year we know... we may get a surprise.
- Students show the biggest drop off. What do you expect in today's everybody deserves a trophy world?
How do we fix that?
- Costs... Supply and demand should take care of it.
- Nobody is going to give up the TV revenue. NOBODY. And they shouldn't. Viewership is actually up... but that's not putting butts in the seats and nobody wants to play to an empty, half empty stadium. People need a reason to be there....
- Competitive.. If Vandy has a shot to beat Bama, Vandy would sell out. We all know it. We also know that under the current system, that will never happen. There is simply noway for Vandy to recruit at the level of Bama. The NFL has 53 men on the roster of which only 46 can dress out.
So we know a smaller roster works. In College you are allowed 85. 85!! That is 7 less than what 2 NFL teams are allowed to dress out.
To make the game more competitive, the NCAA needs to address this. There is no reason why we can not drop this to 60-70. You take away 20 of the players from the top 10 recruiting schools, and those player end up spread out.
- Student attendance. Again, make the game competitive and students will show back up.
EDITED: Thanks Sky
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 7:00 pm
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:42 pm to Jjdoc
Georgia's one of the few schools that hasn't experienced a drop in attendance...all home games were sellouts last year.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:45 pm to Jjdoc
We don't. We just accept it. Football is a dying sport. 20 years from now it'll be an unrecognizable shell of it's former glory, 30 years from now it may be gone all together.
Basketball will be the new king. It's already the second most popular sport globally, and only continues to grow massively each year. Y'all should've seen the light and gotten in on the ground floor like Auburn did, we will be your new overlords.
Basketball will be the new king. It's already the second most popular sport globally, and only continues to grow massively each year. Y'all should've seen the light and gotten in on the ground floor like Auburn did, we will be your new overlords.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:46 pm to Jjdoc
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Supply and demand should take care of it.
I think this is correct, especially from a lodging standpoint. I live 4.5 hours away from Auburn so a day trip doesn't make sense. However, every decent hotel relatively close to Auburn Jack's up the cost to ridiculous levels and require a two night minimum.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:51 pm to RatRodDawg
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Georgia's one of the few schools that hasn't experienced a drop in attendance...all home games were sellouts last year.
Per UGAwire.com those numbers are not accurate. Article written in march 2019
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The University of Georgia is currently boasting a streak of 71 consecutive sell-outs. But that leads us to an important distinction: tickets sold vs actual attendance.
In fact, in numbers reported to the Seth Emerson and the Athletic, it showed that during Georgia’s magical 2017 season nearly one in every 10 fans were no shows for home games.
Emerson recalled the 2015 nightmare that was Georgia vs Alabama, a rematch of the 2012 SEC Championship Game. It was a torrential downpour, but in the moments leading to kickoff, the atmosphere was simply electric. I was there, and I could have sworn the attendance was nearly 100%. The folks at home probably thought the same, as a result of CBS scanning over the field showing what looked like a packed house. However, in reality, although Georgia did report a full stadium, there were actually less than 80,000 in attendance.
Georgia recently upped the minimum donation required to obtain season tickets, as well as slightly increasing the cost of the ticket itself. It will be interesting to see how this impacts future attendance and sales.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:54 pm to borotiger
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I think this is correct, especially from a lodging standpoint. I live 4.5 hours away from Auburn so a day trip doesn't make sense. However, every decent hotel relatively close to Auburn Jack's up the cost to ridiculous levels and require a two night minimum.
When it gets bad enough that they don't have the business... they will get the picture.
OR...
Maybe the city needs to address it in a friendly manner now.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:56 pm to Jjdoc
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Heck... you can watch on your phone driving down the road.
Don't do this.
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Students show the biggest drop off. What do you expect in today's everybody deserves a trophy world?
Almost assuredly NOT the reason students don't attend games.
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The NFL has 53 men on the roster of which only 46 can dress out.
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So we know a smaller roster works. In College you are allowed 85. 85!! That is 7 more than what 2 NFL teams are allowed to dress out.
46x2=92.
92>85
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:59 pm to Jjdoc
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There is no reason why we can not drop this to 60-70
Yes there is- injuries. The reason NFL teams can have such small rosters is because they have an unlimited number of players they can instantly pick up to replace injured players.
College teams can’t add guys mid season.
If you’re a college team with 60 scholarships and 10 guys get injured, the rest of your guys are in trouble. You couldn’t even practice except against walk ons.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:00 pm to skrayper
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46x2=92.
92>85
Corrected
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:06 pm to BowlJackson
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Basketball will be the new king
Football dwarfs basketball. Go look up the top 50 rated TV events in the US from last year. Almost all of them are football games.
Even if football dies, basketball isn’t replacing it. Most those people will just quit watching sports.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:08 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Most those people will just quit watching sports.
You and I both know that this is incorrect.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:08 pm to Jjdoc
Well, A&M must know something that we don’t. Waiting on them to enlarge that stadium again! Whoop!
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:14 pm to borotiger
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You and I both know that this is incorrect.
You think the average person that exclusively follows football, a game built of violence, is going to start watching basketball?
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:30 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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If you’re a college team with 60 scholarships and 10 guys get injured, the rest of your guys are in trouble. You couldn’t even practice except against walk ons.
I believe your numbers are not accurate. Second, I suggested that it be between 60 and 70. Third, 10 from 60 is 50. It takes 22 to field an offense and a defense.
In short, you are wrong.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:37 pm to Jjdoc
Stop making 100k + stadiums. Do what the basketball arenas are doing. Make them nice, add luxury suites, dining and entertainment areas. Build a kid friendly area somewhere inside the stadium. Get infrastructure fixed to increase the flow of traffic to and from the stadiums so your not stuck in traffic for 2 hours.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:40 pm to Jjdoc
The at home experience is too good. Nobody wants to give up a whole day of football for 1 game. I use to go to a game every year but haven’t been to one since 2011.
I have much more fun sitting on my couch,grilling, and bullshitting with my friends
I have much more fun sitting on my couch,grilling, and bullshitting with my friends
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:45 pm to 14caratgoldjones
I can agree with some of that. But I dont think reducing the size of the stadium should be the focus.
A typical season ticket holder pays booster fees, then the seat, and then parking fees. Why? Tv revenues are higher than ever. Lower it all.
Fix the flow.. for sure!
But again... are you buying tickets to a team that wins 3 to 6 games per year??
A typical season ticket holder pays booster fees, then the seat, and then parking fees. Why? Tv revenues are higher than ever. Lower it all.
Fix the flow.. for sure!
But again... are you buying tickets to a team that wins 3 to 6 games per year??
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:46 pm to mistaken4193
That 110" screen is hard to beat!
Posted on 7/5/19 at 8:26 pm to Jjdoc
Go back to limited substitution where when you leave game, you ha e to sit out the rest of the quarter. QB can sub and 1 defensive player.
It would help limit the size of players. Weighing 350 would not be an advantage because linemen would play both ways.
Could limit rosters to 50 players. Scholarships could be 60 total with freshmen ineligible.
Basically take it back to 1950 or so.
Of course, I know this won’t happen, but it would create more competition.
Reality, probably only teams that generate 70 million dollars or more of revenues will be able to compete going forward.
It would help limit the size of players. Weighing 350 would not be an advantage because linemen would play both ways.
Could limit rosters to 50 players. Scholarships could be 60 total with freshmen ineligible.
Basically take it back to 1950 or so.
Of course, I know this won’t happen, but it would create more competition.
Reality, probably only teams that generate 70 million dollars or more of revenues will be able to compete going forward.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:12 pm to Jjdoc
Jelly? Me thinks so.
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