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re: Say what you want about DeBoer, but hes working his arse off instead of running.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:30 pm to crimsoncoded94
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:30 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Just ask UGA what happened after Smart won 2 natties. How many arrest have they had now?
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:30 pm to KingOfTheWorld
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:31 pm to crimsoncoded94
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I am not.
You definitely are, but as I said, I realize you are completely oblivious to that fact.
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There are more layers to coaching than just winning a football game and money.
Absolutely.
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It may be easier to lure talent here, but in the current landscape of college football talent doesn't always equal success anymore.
It never has, teams pre-NIL frequently had highly rated recruiting classes and didn't win.
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Which is why Indiana just won a natty, and why Ole Miss had a better chance than they've ever had.
So why did DeBoer leave Washington? Why did Lane leave Ole Miss?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:31 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Which is why Indiana just won a natty, and why Ole Miss had a better chance than they've ever had.
Who won the natty the year before that?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:32 pm to KingOfTheWorld
They didnt have to spend a lot on the guys getting paid nothing at JMU.
Thats the part a lot of people arent considering.
It will be harder for him to sustain success now because any player he recruits to Indiana will be recruited by all the other top universities.
No one was interested in his players from JMU.
Thats the part a lot of people arent considering.
It will be harder for him to sustain success now because any player he recruits to Indiana will be recruited by all the other top universities.
No one was interested in his players from JMU.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:33 pm to vengeanceofbrain
His argument is basically that Cignetti is a better coach than DeBoer. I don't know if that is the intent, but that's what's happening here.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:34 pm to TigerLunatik
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His argument is basically that Cignetti is a better coach than DeBoer
I mean it’s the most accurate thing I’ve seen him say so far
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:35 pm to crimsoncoded94
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They didnt have to spend a lot on the guys getting paid nothing at JMU.
Thats the part a lot of people arent considering.
It will be harder for him to sustain success now because any player he recruits to Indiana will be recruited by all the other top universities.
No one was interested in his players from JMU
Which immediately contradicts your point that mid-tier teams like Indiana and Ole Miss can now contend for championships.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
To be known as the head coach at Bama and LSU. Who wouldnt want that honor?
Ole Miss would have matched Lanes pay and Washington was willing to pay DeBoer the same too.
Its not about the money.
Theoretically it will be easier once the NCAA figures out how to handle all of the this NIL stuff and make it fair.
Until then college football is literally crazy land.
Ole Miss would have matched Lanes pay and Washington was willing to pay DeBoer the same too.
Its not about the money.
Theoretically it will be easier once the NCAA figures out how to handle all of the this NIL stuff and make it fair.
Until then college football is literally crazy land.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:38 pm to crimsoncoded94
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To be known as the head coach at Bama and LSU. Who wouldnt want that honor?
So they just want the headlines, they're willing to take a tougher job just for prestige?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
How? This means its harder to win at top universities because everyone is interested in what you are doing.
The highest paid rosters lost out early in the playoffs.
He won at Indiana because he was able to sneak under the radar with guys who he knew were good and it didn't cost him much.
Basically what Im saying is there may be some value now in getting lower rated prospects because they wont come in with a diva attitude.
The highest paid rosters lost out early in the playoffs.
He won at Indiana because he was able to sneak under the radar with guys who he knew were good and it didn't cost him much.
Basically what Im saying is there may be some value now in getting lower rated prospects because they wont come in with a diva attitude.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:43 pm to TigerLunatik
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By your logic, Lane Kiffin took the harder path too because the expectations are so high where he is now.
Can't fault the man's logic. Expectations in Tuscaloosa are through the roof.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
Prestige is the entire point of winning.
Do you think Saban was the best cause he didnt care about leaving a prestigious legacy?
Why do hall of fames exist?
Every great player wants to be KNOWN as the best.
Do you think Saban was the best cause he didnt care about leaving a prestigious legacy?
Why do hall of fames exist?
Every great player wants to be KNOWN as the best.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:45 pm to ljhog
Every successful person is full of themselves to an extent its just how they handle it that counts. Cignetti told a dude to Google him.
We all know Lane is full of himself.
Dude could have stayed at Ole Miss, made all the money in the world and still won a natty or two, but it doesn't stroke his ego enough like it will to do it at LSU.
And what person wants to be publically fired?
No one is going into the LSU and Alabama jobs without being scared to death of not meeting expectations and being publically humiliated.
Lane can always get another job in his SEC circle, but DeBoer would likely not even get a job as good as Washington at first.
He took a HUGE risk coming here.
We all know Lane is full of himself.
Dude could have stayed at Ole Miss, made all the money in the world and still won a natty or two, but it doesn't stroke his ego enough like it will to do it at LSU.
And what person wants to be publically fired?
No one is going into the LSU and Alabama jobs without being scared to death of not meeting expectations and being publically humiliated.
Lane can always get another job in his SEC circle, but DeBoer would likely not even get a job as good as Washington at first.
He took a HUGE risk coming here.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:51 pm to Wishbone85
34-24. 
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:51 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Dude could have stayed at Ole Miss, made all the money in the world and still won a natty or two, but it doesn't stroke his ego enough like it will to do it at LSU.
From their own comments, I don't believe that Kiffin thought he could win a natty at Ole Miss.
I don't believe DeBoer thought he could win a natty at Washington.
I think either would've received more prestige by winning a natty at those places, not less.
If Lane wins at LSU, there will be some measure of "well, everyone does", same for DeBoer.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
Everyone doesnt though. Alabama went 20 years without one. We just found a coach that stayed here and won a bunch.
LSU's success is recent and its because of that same man.
I think Lane is the most suitable coach in the SEC for the NIL era. He could have most certainly won a title at Ole Miss, but he couldn't resist the money LSU was promising with NIL.
Michigan's natty I dont even count because of all the sign stealing they were doing. They had a coach going undercover on other teams sidelines.
I could be very wrong about all of this im just very passionate about college football. Football
But just like DeBoer, I dont think they quite understand the diva shite that brings.
I would love to ask Kirby how much harder it is now to keep players focused than it was when he got there.
LSU's success is recent and its because of that same man.
I think Lane is the most suitable coach in the SEC for the NIL era. He could have most certainly won a title at Ole Miss, but he couldn't resist the money LSU was promising with NIL.
Michigan's natty I dont even count because of all the sign stealing they were doing. They had a coach going undercover on other teams sidelines.
I could be very wrong about all of this im just very passionate about college football. Football
But just like DeBoer, I dont think they quite understand the diva shite that brings.
I would love to ask Kirby how much harder it is now to keep players focused than it was when he got there.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:33 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Coaches that run to easier paths are pussies. Roll Tide.
There's a huge difference between coaches and players vs fans.
We fans can analyze the hell out of things and sometimes, surprisingly be right on things that coaches and players miss.
But, we fans do not have their confidence and competitive spirit. They never expect to lose. It's a good thing we don't coach and play the game.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
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That's an intellectually dishonest point. Kiffin earned a playoff appearance, he just didn't coach the game due to a technicality.
Not really. His official CFP record as a head coach is 0-0. He could have coached Ole Miss in the playoffs last season. He made the decision not to. That isn’t a technicality. It is however the second time he has bailed on his team in the playoffs.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:35 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Everyone doesnt though.
"Everyone" is hyperbole but LSU has had 3 of their last 4 coaches win a natty.
And at Bama, there are multiple natty winners as well.
That's not the case at Ole Miss or Washington. It's particularly telling that DeBoer literally made the natty game and left.
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