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re: Sark draft turnaround - 2 year draft total
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:14 am to FireDanMullen
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:14 am to FireDanMullen
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I’d be a little concerned pumping out NFL talent and not having close to any hardware
Yep. Not news really.
Texas has always had decent NFL talent.
Texas has not always won much where it matters when it comes down to it.
Texas has played overwhelmingly against shtty talent in their conference for many years with nothing to show for it.
In this capacity, Clemson and Dabo has out-done them by a lot.
Overall, performance-wise, Texas is a little higher than Auburn due to the talent level. That's about it.
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Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:17 am to theballguy
No that’s kind of the point, Texas has not always had NFL talent, and the numbers back that up, now they do, and they’re winning
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:38 pm to FireDanMullen
quote:Not concerned at all. This coming year, every player on the roster was recruited by Sark, and the 2025 team is arguably better than last years team.
Does it concern you that the Georgia teams you’re comparing to had 2 national titles and Texas hasn’t reached a championship appearance or do you believe it’s inevitable Sark gets a title in Austin
Legitimate question. I’d be a little concerned pumping out NFL talent and not having close to any hardware
In 4 years, Sark went from a team w/ ZERO NFL draft choices to a team producing double digit NFL players in back to back years, and the only team in College Football to make the semifinals the last 2 years.
He has turned over the roster in just 4 years to the point he is producing NFL Talent comparable to Georgia's best years. Texas has put 4 DL into the NFL the last 2 years, Oregon, Michigan and LSU have 3 each, and Georgia & Alabama have 1 each.
Kirby won it all in his 6th season, while Sark is starting his 5th year at Texas.
NFL Draft, 2024 & 2025 (Rd 3)
18 Michigan
17 Texas
15 Georgia
14 Oregon
13 Alabama
11 Ohio ST
11 Penn St
11 Flor St
10 LSU
10 Notre Dame
10 Washington
Going to the College Football semifinals 2 years is a row is a lot closer to "any hardware" than where we have been since 2010.
"The oxen are slow but the earth is patient."
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:54 pm to FireDanMullen
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Does it concern you that the Georgia teams you’re comparing to had 2 national titles and Texas hasn’t reached a championship appearance or do you believe it’s inevitable Sark gets a title in Austin
Legitimate question. I’d be a little concerned pumping out NFL talent and not having close to any hardware
Kirby Smart was stacking talent for 5 years before breaking through. Sark's following that same blueprint, and that's about all he can do. It takes a lot of things going your way to win a title. Even for Georgia. Like Alabamas WRs getting injured, or Ohio State's kicker shitting the bed.
The only realistic expectations you can have is that your program is in contention fairly regularly. We were nowhere close to that from 2011-2022. I'll be happy as long as we're in contention for the SEC and in CFP. Maybe we get the breaks eventually and a title comes our way. If not, I guess we'll just have to continue put up with internet trash talk, as hurtful as it is.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 7:13 am to Ptins944
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Kirby won it all in his 6th season, while Sark is starting his 5th year at Texas.
Kirby went to the title game his 2nd year, without the talent stacked is really my point. And was a handful of plays away from having a national title. I don’t think that’s comparable
Posted on 4/27/25 at 7:30 am to FireDanMullen
Look at the teams Kirby inherited. He took over a team which had won 10 games in back to back years. He didn’t have to do a rebuild. Sark inherited a complete dumpster fire. So comparing their timelines is really different.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:09 am to theyatoak
Acting like Texas didn’t have talent is pretty funny.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:09 am to All Gas No Brakes
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Lots of salt in this thread
I think the salt comes from Texas fans bragging about their number of draft picks without at least acknowledging that the number is inflated by portal players.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:31 am to Violent Hip Swivel
2 of Texas’ 12 draft picks were portal players, inflated?
And those 2 had career years as Longhorns… sounds like development
Other 10 were developed at Texas
Texas is just getting started if we’re being honest
And those 2 had career years as Longhorns… sounds like development
Other 10 were developed at Texas
Texas is just getting started if we’re being honest
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:37 am to HorninHouston
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if the problem was Quinn or Sark's offense.
Start here
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:41 am to theballguy
Yeah Auburn made back to back semi-finals in the cfp and is on the same trajectory lol.
Hate Texas all you want but if you seriously think this Texas staff and teams are not significantly better than the past 10 years you are delusional. 23 draft picks the past 2 years with the majority home grown shows development, something it was easy to negatively recruit against for a decade plus. Not anymore
Hate Texas all you want but if you seriously think this Texas staff and teams are not significantly better than the past 10 years you are delusional. 23 draft picks the past 2 years with the majority home grown shows development, something it was easy to negatively recruit against for a decade plus. Not anymore
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:43 am to The_Giving_Tree
I think a lot of this is Sark understands what the whole system at Bama really was. “If you have the money, spend it”.
This comment isn’t about paying for play (which NIL certainly favors Texas) as much as staff, experts, player health and nutrition. Saban brought some of the NFL ideas with him and Sark saw what worked at Bama and married it with his own NFL experience.
Sark is an offensive genius, but he also has a hell of an eye for personnel management and then Texas has the resources to pay to either get them or keep them.
Then combine that with his obvious offensive talent and damn good DC that looks like he has no desires to be a HC. The accept that that is almost a bottomless NIL from both alumni and a city without any professional sports options and Texas should be swimming talent.
So yeah, is it likely Texas wins a title? Sure. In the next 5 years? Maybe, just because how CFB is. Do they have a better chance now than any point since Vince You g played for them, absolutely.
This comment isn’t about paying for play (which NIL certainly favors Texas) as much as staff, experts, player health and nutrition. Saban brought some of the NFL ideas with him and Sark saw what worked at Bama and married it with his own NFL experience.
Sark is an offensive genius, but he also has a hell of an eye for personnel management and then Texas has the resources to pay to either get them or keep them.
Then combine that with his obvious offensive talent and damn good DC that looks like he has no desires to be a HC. The accept that that is almost a bottomless NIL from both alumni and a city without any professional sports options and Texas should be swimming talent.
So yeah, is it likely Texas wins a title? Sure. In the next 5 years? Maybe, just because how CFB is. Do they have a better chance now than any point since Vince You g played for them, absolutely.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:47 am to CharlotteSooner
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Start here
The problem wasn't Sark's offense the problem was Sark missed the boat in realizing Quinn isn't well suited to his offense. Quinn got absolutely hosed in the misdirection turn your back to the defense thing when we didn't have the run game to necessitate the panic in the opposing defense.
I have a distinct feeling Manning will be much better suited for it part because the defense is worried he can take off. If he was similar to his uncles then we would be in for some more tough sledding.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:57 am to theyatoak
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. He didn’t have to do a rebuild.
His first team had 1 player drafted. Acting like he inherited a national championship level program is incorrect.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:02 am to NFLSU
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FIFY
Tell me you are a moron without saying "I'm a moron"
Sark was always going to stand in Ewers corner after Ewers agreed to come to Texas from Ohio State after the 5-7 raging dumpster inferno.
If Ewers was the better QB than Manning he would have come back for 2025 but he was told it was Manning's team going forwards and so his options were NFL Draft or portal
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:51 am to CharlotteSooner
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Start here
Like I said, we'll find out a lot about this offense this year. If we have the exact same issues as the last few years, you know he is the problem.
I'm withholding judgement until I see the offense.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:01 pm to theyatoak
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Texas always had good recruiting classes under Charlie and Herman. Go back and look. The difference now is the development of the players we are bringing in.
This I agree with. But the haters will say it's only because NIL Texas is good agian. Texas literally had top 10 to top 5 classes before NIL and still went 5-7. The difference now is Texas actually develops players now.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:04 pm to NFLSU
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Ewers was still a better QB than Manning or Manning would’ve been the starter. A lot of Horn fans didn't want to acknowledge it but it's a fact
My 8 year old nephew can troll better than this.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:08 pm to Ptins944
I think he is still bitter about that arse whooping Florida got by Texas. Ewers was injured and still had a field day.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:13 pm to FireDanMullen
Never thought I would see the day a Florida fan would ride UGA nuts. You obviously see Texas as a threat long term in this conference.
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