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re: Saban isn't a good X's and O's coach, just the best recruiter of all time..........
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:06 pm to Rabern57
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:06 pm to Rabern57
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His recruiting outside of Bama wasn't great. It wasn't til his players started getting cars and money that he got top classes. Handing a kid keys to a car and money doesn't require much recruiting.
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:08 pm to Rabern57
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His recruiting outside of Bama wasn't great
2000 - #21
2001 - #2
2002 - #21
2003 - #1
2004 - #2
LOL - yea, 3/5 classes being in the Top 2 is pretty underwhelming for sure.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:10 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Discuss.........
Yet you would give your left nut to have Saban as your HC ........
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:13 pm to DannyBateman
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Yet you would give your left nut to have Saban as your HC ........
Nope, Oxford is way too small. Mike Wallace got the 3rd degree for borrowing his brother's car one time and was held out of games by the NCAA while they investigated that. Can you imagine if every player suddenly had a brand new shiny car to drive around in? Saban couldn't "recruit" as well at a smaller school.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2000 - #21
2001 - #2
2002 - #21
2003 - #1
2004 - #2
LOL - yea, 3/5 classes being in the Top 2 is pretty underwhelming for sure.
Cars and cash started in 2001, then LSU boosters saw a downturn in their businesses so in 2002 the cars and cash stopped. A strong stock market in 2003 put the boosters right back on the recruiting trail.
I can only imagine what these kids are getting in this current economy. If I was them I would want stocks.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't know how close Shula really was to landing Tebow. Only Tebow knows, and he seems like a pretty honest person, and it certainly seemed close all the way up until signing day. I think that would've secured a #1 class. All in all though, THANK GOD HE CHOSE FLORIDA 
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Not a single class at LSU had an average player ranking above even 2008 at Bama. He was even #2 with a player average at 70 and #1 had 98.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:16 pm to Pickle_Weasel
He's good at x's and 0's better at jimmies and joes
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:18 pm to Rabern57
quote:Yes, Alabama has way more brand recognition, prestige, and a much bigger trophy room than LSU. Welcome to Earth
Not a single class at LSU had an average player ranking above even 2008 at Bama.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:20 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Nope, Oxford is way too small. Mike Wallace got the 3rd degree for borrowing his brother's car one time and was held out of games by the NCAA while they investigated that. Can you imagine if every player suddenly had a brand new shiny car to drive around in? Saban couldn't "recruit" as well at a smaller school.
I guess you can believe in what ever helps you sleep at night Francis .....
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:20 pm to genro
Also Saban was an established, very highly regarded, NC winning coach making a huge splash hire from the NFL when he went to Bama. He was just a semi-successful guy from Michigan State when he arrived at LSU
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:22 pm to genro
quote:Bama was garbage when he came there. Being good in the past doesn't mean u r just going to jump up to #1 from as bad as they were without something else going on. It was as clear as Ole Miss going from nowhere to top 10.
Yes, Alabama has way more brand recognition, prestige, and a much bigger trophy room than LSU.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:24 pm to Pickle_Weasel
He's pretty damn good at yelling at players that ain't doing their damn job. That ain't x's and o's, but it sure is good coaching.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:26 pm to Rabern57
quote:The football team was garbage. The NAME was still one of the most talked about, well known in all of college football. AND, Bama still had more All American alumni to schmooze, more legendary highlight reels, and more trophies to show off than anyone else around. Sure there have been hard times for a few years, but Bama is still Bama. Be great here and it will mean more than being great anywhere else. Don't you want to make Bama great again?
Bama was garbage when he came there.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:27 pm to Rabern57
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He was even #2 with a player average at 70
LOL - yea, he had the #2 ranked class in America with his class having an average recruit rank of low-3 star.
I'll let you double check your work there and see where your errors were.
2002 - #17 in Per Player Stars
2003 - #3 in Per Player Stars
2004 - #3 in Per Player Stars
Brilliant analysis Raburn, per usual
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:29 pm to Pickle_Weasel
62-7
66-3
54-10-2
No conference championships since the Kennedy administration.
66-3
54-10-2
No conference championships since the Kennedy administration.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:29 pm to genro
quote:Only because yall were on probation and swapping coaches. Not because yall were great before. That was only Bama fans.
The NAME was still one of the most talked about, well known in all of college football.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:We are talking composite. Not which ever one you think favored your dumb argument. He's not making his living off 3* at Bama.
Brilliant analysis Raburn, per usual
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:32 pm to r2d2
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He is very good. He has made a lot of assistant coaches HCs and most have failed.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:33 pm to EasterEgg
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If the shoe fits. After all, he learned from the best during his DC days under Belichick. The only difference is that Saban is better at not getting caught.
Oh nvm
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