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Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:00 pm to Jobu93
The following is my list of permanent rivals, that are no brainers. These are the ones that it never seems to make sense to change no matter how I flip around the others, either due to existing rivalries or geography.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Missouri, Texas
Auburn: Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida: Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina
Kentucky: Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State
Miss State: Alabama, Ole Miss
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma
Oklahoma: Missouri, Texas
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Tennessee
So you have 10 teams who need the third game from among the other 10. That is where the decisions are.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Missouri, Texas
Auburn: Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida: Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina
Kentucky: Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State
Miss State: Alabama, Ole Miss
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma
Oklahoma: Missouri, Texas
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Tennessee
So you have 10 teams who need the third game from among the other 10. That is where the decisions are.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:01 pm to JJxvi
When you build the schedule that way, certain games tend to fall into place, and others that will never make sense. South Carolina for example has no available third team that remotely makes sense or is close geographically. A&Ms third team, for example is particularly volatile. It could Arkansas, Missouri, Miss State, Oklahoma, or we could end up as the last man standing to fill the "South Carolina slot" because we already play them and who else will they stick there?
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:02 pm to JJxvi
This would be my preference. Newbie Oklahoma gets stuck with South Carolina.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Missouri, Texas, LSU
Auburn: Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida: Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina
Kentucky: Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Missouri
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State, Vanderbilt
Miss State: Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Oklahoma: Missouri, Texas, South Carolina
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas, Miss State
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Tennessee, Ole Miss
My official prediction is regardless of what makes sense, they'll do something dumb at the whim of TV and acquiesce to some stupid demand like "we gotta have LSU and Alabama every year" or some other BS that breaks up multiple other games that makes sense.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Missouri, Texas, LSU
Auburn: Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida: Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina
Kentucky: Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Missouri
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State, Vanderbilt
Miss State: Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Oklahoma: Missouri, Texas, South Carolina
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas, Miss State
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Tennessee, Ole Miss
My official prediction is regardless of what makes sense, they'll do something dumb at the whim of TV and acquiesce to some stupid demand like "we gotta have LSU and Alabama every year" or some other BS that breaks up multiple other games that makes sense.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:04 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
I think of LSU and Bama bigger than Bama Tenn.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:11 pm to TomRollTideRitter
That list is correct. The Dellinger list had UK playing Georgia Miss State and Arkansas. Lmfao wtf is that?
For UK, keeping Tennessee and Vanderbilt is our priority. Our 3rd team should be South Carolina, but Missouri or Mississippi State would be acceptable too.
For UK, keeping Tennessee and Vanderbilt is our priority. Our 3rd team should be South Carolina, but Missouri or Mississippi State would be acceptable too.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:38 pm to UKWildcats
People forget that a SECCG would likely be more palatable if it wasn't a rematch, especially with expanded playoff meaning possibly more rematches. Not having the pool of more likely participants necessarily playing each other every year helps that. It also probably helps keep the major tiebreakers headaches to a minimum. As for that, it sounds like they would take the Pac 12 model on that which seems to work out well enough.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:54 pm to TigerCard
The Athletic's expectations:
AL - AU MS TN
AR - OM MO TX*
AU - AL GA FL
FL - AU GA SC
GA - AU FL SC
KY - SC UT VU
LS - OM OK* TA
OM - AR LS MS
MS - AL OM TA
MO - AR OK VU
OK - LS* MO TX
SC - FL GA KY
TN - AL KY VU
TX - AR* OK TA
TA - LS MS TX
VU - KY MO TN
*Note: AR vs TX was an old SWC rivalry, but considering distance, AR vs OK (instead of TX) and LS vs TX (instead of OK) seem better for them, imo.
AL - AU MS TN
AR - OM MO TX*
AU - AL GA FL
FL - AU GA SC
GA - AU FL SC
KY - SC UT VU
LS - OM OK* TA
OM - AR LS MS
MS - AL OM TA
MO - AR OK VU
OK - LS* MO TX
SC - FL GA KY
TN - AL KY VU
TX - AR* OK TA
TA - LS MS TX
VU - KY MO TN
*Note: AR vs TX was an old SWC rivalry, but considering distance, AR vs OK (instead of TX) and LS vs TX (instead of OK) seem better for them, imo.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:15 pm to TigerCard
So Ross Dellinger is an idiot.. his Article shows he has zero pulse on the conference..
And while OU and Texas would clearly be in the new “Big 8”. In no world does TexAM belong in the top half, especially not ahead of Tenn.
And his permanents are not even a little close.
And while OU and Texas would clearly be in the new “Big 8”. In no world does TexAM belong in the top half, especially not ahead of Tenn.
And his permanents are not even a little close.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:48 pm to TigerCard
They need to do pods. 4 pods, 4 teams each.
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Arkansas
MSU
Bama
Tennessee
Auburn
Vandy
Georgia
Kentucky
USCe
Florida
You get 1 permanent rival in each pod. That’s 6 permanent games, all rivalries stay intact. Other 3 games you alternate between 3 remaining teams in each pod so you play them every 3 years
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Arkansas
MSU
Bama
Tennessee
Auburn
Vandy
Georgia
Kentucky
USCe
Florida
You get 1 permanent rival in each pod. That’s 6 permanent games, all rivalries stay intact. Other 3 games you alternate between 3 remaining teams in each pod so you play them every 3 years
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:41 pm to deltaland
4-team pods can't facilitate the best permanent annual rivalry matchups. That's why there won't be any pods.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:53 pm to RogerTempleton
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While Texas and Oklahoma have reshuffled the hierarchy deck a bit, most within the conference would consider the top half Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Georgia and Florida. The bottom would be Tennessee (in many ways, the Vols are caught between the two), South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Mississippi State and Missouri.
Guy is a moron
Vols historically are #2 all time behind Bama at least till UGA has stepped up
Bigger issue is guy has no clue on geography or actual SEC history
as example :
Kentucky: Mississippi State; Arkansas; Georgia
Historically you could argue for geography, Vandy and Tennessee would be at least 2 of the 3. After that Georgia could fit but so could the Columbia's (Yankee and non Yankee).
Posted on 2/11/23 at 12:07 am to dstone12
Auburn has the hardest schedule year in and year out in college football so I’m for no permanent rivals. Time for that crap to stop. We will still have played every team every other year with the new format. It will just mean a break every few years for us.
Every other tradition has been broken so I don’t know why we have to hold on to that one.
Every other tradition has been broken so I don’t know why we have to hold on to that one.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:21 am to TigerCard
Kind of bummed they nixed the 4 pod system—I love the NFL model and think it would help develop some insane rivalries with a team playing a fixed 3 teams every year, and then have better rotation among the remaining SEC teams on a 9 game conference schedule.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:50 am to TigerCard
Yeah, this system sucks. I can see Alabama and Auburn and Tennessee playing each other if that is about it from an an Alabama perspective. Alabama and LSU should not play each other every year and white George’s not playing South Carolina. Each year is beyond me, that is a huge traditional rivalry.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:13 am to MizzouTiger92
quote:
Kind of bummed they nixed the 4 pod system—I love the NFL model and think it would help develop some insane rivalries with a team playing a fixed 3 teams every year, and then have better rotation among the remaining SEC teams on a 9 game conference schedule.
The 9-game 3/6 model has the same format -- 3 fixed rivalries and 6 rotational games -- but without unnecessary 4-team pods that prevent some desired fixed rivalries. That's why there'll be no 4-team pods.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 1:57 am
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:40 am to Imber
quote:
The projection posted earlier that had A&M and OU as two of our permanents sucks.
You people never stop talking about A&M. I mean it's 24/7. Face it, You would have to be brain-dead not to see the obsession LSU fans have with TAMU.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:52 am to Pauldingtiger
quote:Auburn has complained for years about being cut off from its natural rivals in the East. Now that you have the chance to resume lock down UGA and UF, in addition to Bama (have to have that for TV) every year, you don't want to do it for fear that the schedule would be too tough? Would it, though?
Auburn has the hardest schedule year in and year out in college football so I’m for no permanent rivals. Time for that crap to stop. We will still have played every team every other year with the new format. It will just mean a break every few years for us.
Every other tradition has been broken so I don’t know why we have to hold on to that one.
Think about it this way: If your permanent opponents are Bama, UGA, and UF, your rotating opponents are going to contain a lot of Vandy, Kentucky, Missouri, etc. If there were only a couple of tough teams in the league, then who you draw as permanent opponents might be crucial for competitive balance, but, with the league so deep, and the schedule rotating through every 2 years, I don't think it matters much.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:10 pm to JJxvi
quote:
When you build the schedule that way, certain games tend to fall into place, and others that will never make sense. South Carolina for example has no available third team that remotely makes sense or is close geographically. A&Ms third team, for example is particularly volatile. It could Arkansas, Missouri, Miss State, Oklahoma, or we could end up as the last man standing to fill the "South Carolina slot" because we already play them and who else will they stick there?
AL - AU MS TN
AR - OM MO OK
AU - AL GA FL
FL - AU GA SC
GA - AU FL SC
KY - SC UT VU
LS - OM TX TA
OM - AR LS MS
MS - AL OM TA
MO - AR OK VU
OK - AR MO TX
SC - FL GA KY
TN - AL KY VU
TX - LS OK TA
TA - LS MS TX
VU - KY MO TN
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:20 pm to JJxvi
Kentucky will be our 3rd perm along with uga and uf.
Playing texam every year is over.
Playing texam every year is over.
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