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Ranking SEC Basketball Programs since 2000 (updated)

Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:50 am
Kind of a spin off of the other threads

National Title - 50 pts
Final Four - 25 pts
Elite 8 - 15 pts
Sweet 16 - 10 pts
NCAAT - 5 pts
Conference Title - 7 pts
Conference Tourney Title - 5 pts
Losing Season (sub-500) - (-3) pts


With that criteria


1. Kentucky (372 pts)
2. Florida (309 pts)
3. Tennessee (102 pts)
4. LSU (78 pts)
5. Missouri (59 pts)
6. Alabama (56 pts)
7. Texas A&M (44 pts)
8. Mississippi State (40 pts)
9. Vanderbilt (31 pts)
10. Arkansas (30 pts)
11. Auburn (21 pts)
12. Ole Miss (17 pts)
13. Georgia (12 pts)
14. South Carolina (0 pts)
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:35 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:52 am to
By my count Georgia has 32.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:52 am to
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since 2000

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:53 am to
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By my count Georgia has 32.


You only get one set of points for each season NCAAT - you dont roll them all up.

Kentucky wins a national title they get 50 pts - they dont get 50+25+15+10+5.

Also - only regular season champs, probably the difference. I'll tack on conference tournament.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:53 am to
I do not like, nor agree with your stance that regular season wins literally don’t count. I find it rather odd, actually, since regular season wins are what put teams in position to be successful in the post season.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:53 am to
Musselman has never won fewer than 20 games/season as a college coach and he doesn't own a motorcycle.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:54 am to
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You only get one set of points for each season NCAAT - you dont roll them all up


I know. We haven't made it past the Round of 64 in this millenium.

We still have 32 points.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:55 am to
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I do not like, nor agree with your stance that regular season wins literally don’t count. I find it rather odd, actually, since regular season wins are what put teams in position to be successful in the post season.



Esteemed poster Tuscaloosa I value your opinion greatly.

But in this matter -

Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:56 am to
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By my count Georgia has 32.


And I count 47 for Arkansas?

** Okay, I see you updated it to 45 points. But why would you give us 5pts for an NCAAT bid, rather than 7 for winning the SECT? Doesn't that make the SECT worthless, since it's an automatic bid to the NCAAT?

*** Nm... I see what you did.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:58 am to
I did not and will not downvote your post, but I am glad someone else did.

Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:59 am to
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And I count 47 for Arkansas?


Wow. Massive fail for George.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:00 am to
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And I count 47 for Arkansas?



40 pts for 5 NCAAT appearances
5 pts for 1 SEC Tourney Title
45 pts overall
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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Conference Title - 7 pts
Conference Tourney Title - 5 pts


I'm SHOCKED that a Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better. They haven't won a tournament title since 1991

What a pathetic program
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:05 am to
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I'm SHOCKED that a Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better.


You don’t watch basketball, do you?
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:06 am to
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40 pts for 5 NCAAT appearances
5 pts for 1 SEC Tourney Title
45 pts overall


Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I do not like, nor agree with your stance that regular season wins literally don’t count. I find it rather odd, actually, since regular season wins are what put teams in position to be successful in the post season.


That is just not how it works in CBB though, the tournament is king. It doesn't matter how much you put yourself in a good position to win in the tournament if you lose early.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:08 am to
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You don’t watch basketball, do you?


Oh look. Another Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better.

Tournament title gets you an automatic bid. Regular season doesn't. Much more at stake.

Tournament title > Regular season title. The selection committee agrees.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:09 am to
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13. South Carolina (30 pts)

That's freaking amazing considering they got 25 points for a final four
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:09 am to
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13. Georgia (30 pts)

We truly are a pathetic basketball program. With all the talent in the Atlanta area the fact that we can't lock down enough talent to be a consistent tourney team is sad
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:10 am to
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That is just not how it works in CBB though, the tournament is king. It doesn't matter how much you put yourself in a good position to win in the tournament if you lose early.


I don’t think anyone would disagree that tournament is king. But regular season wins aren’t valueless.

By using the OP’s criteria - regular season conference championships weighing more than tournament championships - we see that regular season wins matter. I don’t think it’s illogical to conclude that they should be considered when evaluating the strength of a program over a period of time.
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