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re: Ranking SEC Basketball Programs since 2000 (updated)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:19 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:19 am to diddlydawg7
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And look, guess who’s making this argument. An LSU fan. LSU has only won one conference tournament in their entire school history. And it was in 1979
We've done ok in baseball both with regular season and tournament championships. if you havent heard. It's the same argument.
Eta. Damn autocorrect
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:19 am to diddlydawg7
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You can win the regular season championship by going 11-7 in conference. And with a poor non-conference record, you’re out of the tournament. Sorry bro. Take it up with the selection committee.
Has this literally ever happened?
Don’t do this to yourself.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:20 am to skrayper
Like I said, a penalty for sub-500 seasons is probably worth adding, but that is a deep dive add. This was a pretty off the cuff list created out of curiosity.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:20 am to Tuscaloosa
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Don’t do this to yourself.
It's diddly. He's incapable of not doing this to himself.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:22 am to diddlydawg7
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You can win the regular season championship by going 11-7 in conference. And with a poor non-conference record, you’re out of the tournament.
We have 4 teams with 6 or 7 losses currently that are going to be in the tournament.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:24 am to SummerOfGeorge
To be clear on that because now it can look like I believe conference tournaments> regular seasons titles
I think a ranking needs to almost purely be NCAA tournament finishes or include almost everything else in it as well (conference tournament championships, regular season titles, wins, etc)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:25 am to rockiee
My takeaway from this is that you are a dick and I will never forgive you
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:28 am to Tuscaloosa
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Has this literally ever happened?
No. Every SEC champion since the conference schedule was expanded to 18 games has won at least 13.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:35 am to Robot Santa
Losing season -3 pts added, few changes in the bottom half
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:38 am to Tuscaloosa
Not in the SEC, but in 2012 Washington won the Pac-12 regular season championship going 14-4 in conference.
But because they went 10-7 in non-conference play, they were left out.
Regular season don't mean shite.
But because they went 10-7 in non-conference play, they were left out.
Regular season don't mean shite.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
Losing seasons since 2000-2001
1. Auburn (12)
2. South Carolina (10)
3. Vanderbilt (8)
4. Missouri (7)
5. Georgia (6)
5. Ole Miss (6)
5. Texas A&M (6)
8. Arkansas (5)
8. LSU (5)
10. Miss St (4)
11. Tennessee (3)
14. Alabama (1)
14. Florida (1)
14. Kentucky (1)
1. Auburn (12)
2. South Carolina (10)
3. Vanderbilt (8)
4. Missouri (7)
5. Georgia (6)
5. Ole Miss (6)
5. Texas A&M (6)
8. Arkansas (5)
8. LSU (5)
10. Miss St (4)
11. Tennessee (3)
14. Alabama (1)
14. Florida (1)
14. Kentucky (1)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:40 am to rockiee
quote:I agree with Tuscaloosa. How can any body of work not be at least as important as the tournament, bowl or playoff "reward" that it receives as a result of that work?
That is just not how it works in CBB though, the tournament is king. It doesn't matter how much you put yourself in a good position to win in the tournament if you lose early.
If Gonzaga finishes the season undefeated, then gets upset by Podunk A&M in the 1st game, does that erase all the success they experienced that season?
Success in post-season events are GREAT, but imo, the trip is more important than the destination.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
Given the new scoring, Auburn has 21 points despite Bruce being responsible for 33 
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:41 am to diddlydawg7
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Not in the SEC, but in 2012 Washington won the Pac-12 regular season championship going 14-4 in conference.
But because they went 10-7 in non-conference play, they were left out.
Regular season don't mean shite.
The 2012 Pac 12 was essentially a mid-major. They had 2 teams make the NCAA Tournament and they were a #11 and #12 seed. They had 1 Top 50 KenPom team.
So, if the SEC falls to that level again, then that is possible.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
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My takeaway from this is that you are a dick and I will never forgive you
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:43 am to rockiee
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:43 am to diddlydawg7
Here's a little stat for you Bammers
Since 2000, 100% of Power 6 teams who have won the conference tournament have made the NCAAT
Since 2000, 99% of Power 6 teams who have won the regular season championship have made the NCAAT.
But muh regular season better!
Since 2000, 100% of Power 6 teams who have won the conference tournament have made the NCAAT
Since 2000, 99% of Power 6 teams who have won the regular season championship have made the NCAAT.
But muh regular season better!
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:44 am to AA7
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Given the new scoring, Auburn has 21 points despite Bruce being responsible for 33
South Carolina went to a Final Four and ended up with 0 points and was the clear #14 out of 14
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:45 am to diddlydawg7
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Not in the SEC, but in 2012 Washington won the Pac-12 regular season championship going 14-4 in conference.
But because they went 10-7 in non-conference play, they were left out.
Regular season don't mean shite.
So, one instance - from any conference - in the history of the tournament equates to “easily” missing the tournament as a conference champion? Are there any other examples?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:47 am to diddlydawg7
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But muh regular season better!
Well, that’s why teams that win their conference tournament don’t call themselves “Conference Champions” unless they won the regular season. There’s a distinguished difference for a reason, sir.
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