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re: Ranking SEC Basketball Programs since 2000 (updated)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:11 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:11 am to diddlydawg7
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Oh look. Another Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better.
Tournament title gets you an automatic bid. Regular season doesn't. Much more at stake.
Tournament title > Regular season title. The selection committee agrees.
Here you go:
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:11 am to Tuscaloosa
I think they matter and should be included in some (small) way. On a deep dive I'd add in some sort of penalty for sub-500 seasons (-5 or something).
But in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't change much I don't think.
But in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't change much I don't think.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:11 am to diddlydawg7
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Oh look. Another Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better.
Because it is.
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Tournament title gets you an automatic bid.
What incentive do the teams that aren't at least on the bubble have in the conference tournaments if there was no automatic bid?
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Regular season doesn't.
The SEC regular season champion is getting into the tournament regardless. They don't need an automatic bid.
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Tournament title > Regular season title. The selection committee agrees.
So if LSU wins the conference tournament, you think they will get a better seed than Bama?
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:13 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted by a Bama fan:
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Tournament, gets you an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.
Regular season title doesn't get you anything.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
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10. Mississippi State (52 pts)
11. Arkansas (45 pts)
Oof
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
Big 6 in dis bish
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
Nm
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:13 am to diddlydawg7
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Posted by a Bama fan:
Posted by everybody in that thread that has any kind of legitimacy/clout:
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Regular season
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:14 am to redeye
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How does MSU have 52pts?
1 regular season title, 2 tournament titles, 7 NCAAT
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:15 am to TigerLunatik
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The SEC regular season champion is getting into the tournament regardless. They don't need an automatic bid.
Says who? You can easily have an SEC team win the regular season title and not get in.
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What incentive do the teams that aren't at least on the bubble have in the conference tournaments if there was no automatic bid?
Winning a championship. Duh.
And look, guess who’s making this argument. An LSU fan. LSU has only won one conference tournament in their entire school history. And it was in 1979
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
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1 regular season title, 2 tournament titles, 7 NCAAT
Gotcha.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:15 am to diddlydawg7
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You can easily have an SEC team win the regular season title and not get in.
Pretty sure it's never happened in modern SEC Basketball
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:16 am to Tuscaloosa
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But regular season wins aren’t valueless.
I wouldn't have a problem with a ranking that involved them but you would have to make them very low value compared to tournament finishes imo
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By using the OP’s criteria - regular season conference championships weighing more than tournament championships - we see that regular season wins matter
Well, I don't really agree with him on that so I won't defend it.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:16 am to diddlydawg7
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Says who? You can easily have an SEC team win the regular season title and not get in.
As in literally never?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:16 am to SummerOfGeorge
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1. Kentucky (375 pts)
2. Florida (312 pts)
When you compare where these two programs sit over the course of conference history, Florida getting that close is just a testament to how insane their run was in the 2000s.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:17 am to Tuscaloosa
You can win the regular season championship by going 11-7 in conference. And with a poor non-conference record, you’re out of the tournament. Sorry bro. Take it up with the selection committee.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:17 am to rockiee
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Well, I don't really agree with him on that so I won't defend it.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:18 am to skrayper
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When you compare where these two programs sit over the course of conference history, Florida getting that close is just a testament to how insane their run was in the 2000s.
This is just the 2000s
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
So a team could make the Sweet 16 for 8 out of 20 seasons, literally win 0 games in the other 12, and would be the #5 SEC program since 2000?
Is that a problem with your system, or a testament to how weak the conference was for a stretch?
Is that a problem with your system, or a testament to how weak the conference was for a stretch?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
42 of our points are because of Bruce. That man is a wizard
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