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re: Ranking SEC Basketball Programs since 2000 (updated)
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:30 am to swinetime
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:30 am to swinetime
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Translation we are gonna get one of these right so we can make ourselves not look like a team that has only finished in the top 8 teams ONCE in the history of our program.
Sorry you don't like recent history.
It's not exactly super favorable to us, either.
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:32 am to diddlydawg7
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I used to think LSU fans were WAYYYY dumber than Bama fans. But based on this thread, I'm starting to think they're about the same.
I could see where not winning jack and yet considering your team the greatest could be somewhat confusing for a dawg fan.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
It's a filtered history to try and make your team appear better than they really are, which judging by the comments you failed at also because your numbers are off. It's like me judging bama football vs ark from 93 -2000
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:36 am to diddlydawg7
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I used to think LSU fans were WAYYYY dumber than Bama fans. But based on this thread, I'm starting to think they're about the same.
You have zero self awareness.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:39 am to swinetime
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It's a filtered history to try and make your team appear better than they really are
6th in the SEC is basically exactly where we are all-time. This list does nothing to enhance Alabama's standing.
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which judging by the comments you failed at also because your numbers are off
They aren't
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It's like me judging bama football vs ark from 93 -2000
If this was the year 2000 then sure. This is literally just the last 20 years, not some random time period.
Recent history was brought up quite frequently before 2008 in regards to Alabama football, FWIW. All the time, really.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but South Carolina should get some credit here for their two NIT Championships in 2005 and 06. With the number of automatic bids awarded to small conferences by no means does this mean they were #65 or #69 depending on counting the 'play in ' games.
Playing in the NIT is no different than playing in the Belk Bowl,Birmingham Bowl, Liberty Bowl,etc in football. Are you seriously going to say (in a "non-Covid" season any SEC football team at 6-6 or 7-5 or even 8-4 is going to turn down ANY bowl game?
Playing in the NIT is no different than playing in the Belk Bowl,Birmingham Bowl, Liberty Bowl,etc in football. Are you seriously going to say (in a "non-Covid" season any SEC football team at 6-6 or 7-5 or even 8-4 is going to turn down ANY bowl game?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:41 am to I-59 Tiger
Yea, I think the fact that you don't get the losing season penalty kind of takes care of that.
But I dunno.
But I dunno.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:of course you are gonna look better Ark didnt join the sec until 1992. If we would have been in the conference longer you would have more losses and less wins . Again filtered
6th in the SEC is basically exactly where we are all-time. This list does nothing to enhance Alabama's standing.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:47 am to swinetime
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of course you are gonna look better Ark didnt join the sec until 1992. If we would have been in the conference longer you would have more losses and less wins . Again filtered
We would be 6th with Arkansas included (who would be #2/3).
What are you talking about?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:49 am to swinetime
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of course you are gonna look better Ark didnt join the sec until 1992. If we would have been in the conference longer you would have more losses and less wins . Again filtered
Bud,if this upsets you so much create your own poll like George did. His poll starts in 2000. Arkansas hasn't made the Sweet 16 since 1996 so in this time frame they have been mediocre.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
Big 6 
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:03 pm to diddlydawg7
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You can win the regular season championship by going 11-7 in conference. And with a poor non-conference record, you’re out of the tournament. Sorry bro. Take it up with the selection committee.
Since the SEC brought back the SEC Tournament in 1979 no SEC Regular season champion has ever even been on the bubble that won the regular season title and not the tourney. SEC-T is fun and gave Arkansas in 2000 and Georgia in 2008 a berth in the tourney but the regular season is what's important in the SEC.
Obviously for conferences like the ACC who have always had post season tourneys the Tournament was the deciding factor prior to 1975 when conferences could only send one team. And then in 1975 when Maryland won the ACC regular season title and lost in the semis, the selection committee chose them over the team that beat them,NC State who lost the ACC Title game.
SEC Regular season champion will always be in the tourney,provided they are eligible.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:32 pm to Robot Santa
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If there was no mechanism to earn an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament, 98% of small conference teams would have little to play for because their overall resumés will never be good enough to earn an at large bid.
Exactly. They can't sell the Cinderella story without allowing some sort of way for Cinderella teams to get in. That's the whole idea behind March Madness.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:57 pm to diddlydawg7
I hope you are trolling about conference tournament titles being better/more prestigious than a regular season championship.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:11 pm to diddlydawg7
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I'm SHOCKED that a Bama fan thinks regular season titles are better. They haven't won a tournament title since
Regular season titles are tougher to win because you generally win them by playing every team over a period of time while having to go into hostile environments for real road games. You have to be the most consistent team for a few months.
With conference tournaments, it's a neutral site (sometimes with very few fans caring either way except for UK fans who are all over the place usually waiting for their team to play). You just need to get hot and win a few games at the right time. But the conference tournament can definitely be king when the champ had little to no chance to make the tourney otherwise. So I do love that aspect of it. Also, the teams who have little to no chance have a lot more to play for than those who are comfortably in The Dance already.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:28 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Regular season titles are tougher to win because you generally win them by playing every team over a period of time while having to go into hostile environments for real road games. You have to be the most consistent team for a few months.
With conference tournaments, it's a neutral site (sometimes with very few fans caring either way except for UK fans who are all over the place usually waiting for their team to play). You just need to get hot and win a few games at the right time. But the conference tournament can definitely be king when the champ had little to no chance to make the tourney otherwise. So I do love that aspect of it. Also, the teams who have little to no chance have a lot more to play for than those who are comfortably in The Dance already.
Exactly. Having the best record after an 18 game, 2 month long round robin style format is a much tougher accomplishment and more impressive imho than winning 3-4 games in a row without playing half of the best teams in the conference. The SECT is fun and can be a golden ticket for a team that doesn't have a date to the dance, but suggesting that winning that is better than winning the regular season conference championship is pretty ridiculous.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:52 pm to swinetime
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of course you are gonna look better Ark didnt join the sec until 1992. If we would have been in the conference longer you would have more losses and less wins . Again filtered
Yikes
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:37 pm to diddlydawg7
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Tournament title > Regular season title. The selection committee agrees.
The conference Tourney is really just a way for a team to get hot for a week and backdoor their way into the dance. If by some miracle Vandy wins the SEC tourney, no one will think they deserve to be in the NCAA tourney.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
These threads on ranking programs all-time or "since xxxx" have opened my eyes to just how much Alabama basketball is like looking into a mirror for Mizzou bb fans.
Sad thing about that is, Bama fans can shrug it off because of football king status. For Mizzou fans to look into a mirror and see Alabama in football, we'd have to cut off your face and staple it over ours.
Sad thing about that is, Bama fans can shrug it off because of football king status. For Mizzou fans to look into a mirror and see Alabama in football, we'd have to cut off your face and staple it over ours.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:23 pm to diddlydawg7
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I used to think LSU fans were WAYYYY dumber than Bama fans. But based on this thread, I'm starting to think they're about the same.
Likewise, I use to think Georgia fans were just incredibly arrogant and full of themselves and not dumb or hardheaded enough to argue that winning a conference tournament is a lot bigger deal than winning a regular season conference championship. Conference tournament titles are a big deal but finishing with the best record over an 18 game schedule played against 14 teams over 2 months is a greater accomplishment than getting hot over a single 3 or 4 game/day stretch.
I'm assuming of course that you're serious and aren't trolling. If you are, well played
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