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re: Question of success in basketball

Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:41 am to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:41 am to
Don’t wait on other people to tell you what enjoy more.

As a fan, winning a tournament is cooler… but SEC regular season title is more impressive… doing it over 18 games.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4991 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 8:15 am to
lol why are you talking about final 4s TN fan? You’ve never been.
You’ve only been to the Elite 8 one time
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1117 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Which would you rather have? An SEC regular season title, an SEC tournament title or making it to the Elite 8?


I'd want the regular season title. That mens a great, memorable year. The other two are great, but briefer moments.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:16 am to
How many final fours have you personally played in? Imagine thinking what colors you wear dictate whether or not you can have an opinion.

This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by LegendOfCobb
Athens of the West
Member since Jun 2014
2368 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Which would you rather have? An SEC regular season title, an SEC tournament title or making it to the Elite 8? Want to know your thoughts for the new basketball fans..



Aim higher
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4991 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:42 pm to
Well I’ve been alive and went to the school I cheer for. Had a cousin on the 1995 team.

I’ve seen 4 final 4s in my life.

Anyone in the history of TN basketball has seen one and that coach is now at Auburn so you won’t get back. Ever
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

That’s not the rafters of The Palace. That’s the players practice facility.

And yet UF (a supposedly inferior program according to y'all) doesn't have those.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Well I’ve been alive and went to the school I cheer for. Had a cousin on the 1995 team. I’ve seen 4 final 4s in my life.




I’ve seen a lot more than 4 final fours in my life.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8687 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 1:27 pm to
Elite 8, easily.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 1:44 pm to
The biggest difference for me is are people more likely to remember the elite 8 teams or the conference champions? It's definitely conference champions.

Once you break into the final four most fans will remember those teams over conference champs.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8687 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:33 pm to
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The biggest difference for me is are people more likely to remember the elite 8 teams or the conference champions? It's definitely conference champions.

Once you break into the final four most fans will remember those teams over conference champs.


That's a straw man argument. You said yourself that people will remember Final Four teams first and that's the point. We can argue over whether an Elite 8 appearance or a conference title means more, but no one really cares about either.

Outside of Alabama and Arkansas last year, I can't name other SEC teams that only went that far, but I can rip off Final Four participants going back to the late 70's. I also have a hazy recollection of how far Arkansas has advanced in each NcAAT since the late 70's, but I couldn't tell you which years we won a SEC or SWC title, because I really don't care about them.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9533 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:12 pm to
1a) SEC regular season title
1b) Elite 8
3) SEC tournament title

Swap Final 4 and Elite 8 and it's as follows...

1) Final 4






2) SEC regular season title

3) SEC tournament title
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

hat's a straw man argument. You said yourself that people will remember Final Four teams first and that's the point. We can argue over whether an Elite 8 appearance or a conference title means more, but no one really cares about either.

Outside of Alabama and Arkansas last year, I can't name other SEC teams that only went that far, but I can rip off Final Four participants going back to the late 70's.


That's my point... no one remembers elite 8's. They do remember Final 4s. I do remember recent conference champs and can tell you if a school has won one in the last decade.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

but no one really cares about either


This is 100% false. If conference championships don't mean anything and no one cares about them. Then no one cares about anything less than a national championship either. Who gives a frick if you finished 2nd, 3rd of 4th in that case? Maybe only Kentucky fans feel that way since they have like 40.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
4106 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 6:02 pm to
I agree
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 6:22 pm to
I can remember past razorback teams that went to the elite eight or final fours but I don't remember if they won the conference or not.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8222 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 6:34 pm to
Like most things it really depends. If you’re a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA tourney and get bounced in the Elite 8, it’s really more of a disappointment than an accomplishment. I mean I don’t think Auburn fans and probably UK fans will be thrilled with an Elite 8 run this year. LSU, Tennessee, Alabama much more so.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

I can remember past razorback teams that went to the elite eight or final fours but I don't remember if they won the conference or not.


YOU remember those. No one outside your fan base does though.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:22 pm to
In my opinion, the elite eight is where the cream begins to rise to the top. It is where the team that you root for maybe in serious consideration of winning it all.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:40 pm to
Depends on age but many college basketball fans still remember the 94-95 final fours and Nolan Richardson.
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