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Question for LSU fans regarding Jayden Daniels’ value
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:43 am
I’m just curious what you guys think the LSU offense looks like without Daniels this year. How much different does the offense look next year?
Re-watching the Bama game and then seeing the Florida game, he just effortlessly gashes defenses when things break down. A lot of what we’re seeing from LSU on offense is Daniels’ ability to make big plays from nothing, which is such a huge weapon.
I can’t think of a more valuable player on an individual level in the past few years than what we’re seeing from Daniels this year.
Here’s how their YPP stacks up against previous top ranked offenses in YPP:
2023 LSU - 8.41
2022 OSU - 7.3
2021 OSU - 8.0
2020 BYU - 7.9
2019 OU - 8.0
2018 OU - 8.7
2017 OU - 8.3
2016 WKU - 7.6
2015 Baylor, WKU, UNC - 7.3
2014 Marshall - 7.6
Only one team in the past decade (2018 OU) has gained more yards per play than this year’s LSU team. The only other team to eclipse that mark since 2000 was Hawaii in 2006. I stopped scrolling back once I hit 2000. Truly remarkable.
Re-watching the Bama game and then seeing the Florida game, he just effortlessly gashes defenses when things break down. A lot of what we’re seeing from LSU on offense is Daniels’ ability to make big plays from nothing, which is such a huge weapon.
I can’t think of a more valuable player on an individual level in the past few years than what we’re seeing from Daniels this year.
Here’s how their YPP stacks up against previous top ranked offenses in YPP:
2023 LSU - 8.41
2022 OSU - 7.3
2021 OSU - 8.0
2020 BYU - 7.9
2019 OU - 8.0
2018 OU - 8.7
2017 OU - 8.3
2016 WKU - 7.6
2015 Baylor, WKU, UNC - 7.3
2014 Marshall - 7.6
Only one team in the past decade (2018 OU) has gained more yards per play than this year’s LSU team. The only other team to eclipse that mark since 2000 was Hawaii in 2006. I stopped scrolling back once I hit 2000. Truly remarkable.
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:46 am to Tuscaloosa
Probably lose to Mizzou, Florida and Arkansas without him
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:46 am to Tuscaloosa
Best case scenario…. take away his running completely.
Nuss maybe still gets 30+
passing TDs over the season but I think we’re in double digit Int too. Alert efficient for sure.
we lean on the Running game harder and grind in teams a little more.
we are maybe a 35ish PPG team. somewhere in the mid to high 30s.
worse case would be were basically 2021’offense.
Nuss maybe still gets 30+
passing TDs over the season but I think we’re in double digit Int too. Alert efficient for sure.
we lean on the Running game harder and grind in teams a little more.
we are maybe a 35ish PPG team. somewhere in the mid to high 30s.
worse case would be were basically 2021’offense.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:47 am to Tuscaloosa
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I’m just curious what you guys think the LSU offense looks like without Daniels this year.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:50 am to diddlydawg7
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Probably lose to Mizzou, Florida and Arkansas without him
At a minimum...
He is the offense.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:55 am to Tuscaloosa
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How much different does the offense look next year?
How much different would it look without our Heisman QB? Damn you are dumb ! Like really! For real! You are dumb!
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:59 am to Tuscaloosa
The offense would be a decent unit but nowhere near what we have seen with Jayden at the helm.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:04 am to Tuscaloosa
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I’m just curious what you guys think the LSU offense looks like without Daniels this year.
We definitely lose to Missouri, Arkansas, and Florida without JD. So instead of 7-3, LSU would be 4-6.
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How much different does the offense look next year?
With Nuss, I think we lean heavily on the elite OL and will have to lean on the running game. As the strength will be a loaded RB room as far as talent wise. This year the strength was the WR's and OL. Next year will be OL and RB's.
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A lot of what we’re seeing from LSU on offense is Daniels’ ability to make big plays from nothing, which is such a huge weapon.
His combination of running and passing accuracy and impact on a game is off the charts this year. There is not ONE player in college football more valuable.
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I can’t think of a more valuable player on an individual level in the past few years than what we’re seeing from Daniels this year.
I totally agree, when you look at the game against Bama, he was on pace for a 200 yd rushing and 300 yd passing performance before the injury then to come back the very next week and hit Florida for 350 passing and over 200 rushing yards may not be seen for quite awhile now. I think I read where he will be the only QB in history with over 12,000 yds passing and 3,000 yds rushing in a career.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:05 am to Tuscaloosa
His value is similar to Caleb William's value to USC.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:20 am to Tuscaloosa
The offense would obviously have to go down from its historic production levels. Unknown how it would look with Nuss as the full-time starter. He's got a good arm, but I expect him to turn the ball over more than Daniels.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:22 am to Tuscaloosa
The scramble ability is what really puts it all over the top. You can defend a play perfectly for 5-7 seconds, do a decent job in gap control in your pass rush and it just doesn't matter. He runs for 25+ yards.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:24 am to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
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he just effortlessly gashes defenses when things break down. A lot of what we’re seeing from LSU on offense is Daniels’ ability to make big plays from nothing, which is such a huge weapon.
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I can’t think of a more valuable player on an individual level in the past few years than what we’re seeing from Daniels this year.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:25 am to Tuscaloosa
Who knows. Maybe we run more, shorten the game up, and the W/L record is relatively the same but the scores aren't nearly as high for either team in the games we've played?
I don't think we'd be 0-12 is all I'm saying. Maybe more like 6-4.
I don't think we'd be 0-12 is all I'm saying. Maybe more like 6-4.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:27 am to diddlydawg7
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diddlydawg7
Stick to jawja info as you know nothing about LSU. Troll.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:28 am to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
It’s a trap, don’t fall for it. JK
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:29 am to Tuscaloosa
Next season will tell us all a lot about BK.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:32 am to supersaints9
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How much different would it look without our Heisman QB? Damn you are dumb ! Like really! For real! You are dumb!
No need to get lippy. JD5 is such a transcendently unbelievable player that now even Tuscaloosa is levying genuinely-felt compliments and admiration at an opponent
It takes a truly special player to bring the rant together like this
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:32 am to five_fivesix
This.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:38 am to supersaints9
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How much different would it look without our Heisman QB? Damn you are dumb ! Like really! For real! You are dumb!
Bama’s offense looked different but improved when Mac took over for Tua. It looked different but put up similar numbers when Bryce took over for Mac. I don’t think the question is as preposterous as you seem to feel.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 11:40 am to diddlydawg7
quote:Ya think?
Probably lose to Mizzou, Florida and Arkansas without him
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