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re: Question for fans of other teams than Arkansas:
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:44 pm to bpfergu
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:44 pm to bpfergu
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well-behaved, faithful, drug-free,
My guess on SEC coaches for being/not being any 1 of these 3. I excluded law abiding because it is too general. (i.e. NCAA laws? Federal laws? State laws?)
1. Miles - yes. Good, genuine guy.
2. Saban - focuses on doing everything right, no record of wrongdoing, so yes.
3. Freeze - don't know much about him but i would go with yes.
4. Mullen - yes
5. Petrino - lulz
6. Chizik - maybe. I could see him doing a little behind the scenes dirty work.
7. Dooley - I could see him having a mistress on the side but yes to the others.
8. Muschamp - no to well behaved. yes to the rest.
9. Spurrier - no except for drug free. I'm sure no HC in the SEC does drugs.
10. Franklin - yes.
11. Joker - could see him with a side piece of arse, otherwise yes.
12. Richt - yes for sure.
13. Sumlin - dunno. He took the A&M job so I'm sure he has a secret boyfriend by now.
14. Pinkel - no
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:45 pm to Broke
quote:this right here. they are paid to win games as long as they do that its all good. Now they dont win enough and personal shite can be a nice excuse to fire them
I don't care what they do on their personal time. I watch them for football. If they need to answer to their spouse, dats on them. That's just the way I feel.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:50 pm to Elleshoe
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Mainieri- probably
Miles- I'm 99.9% confident yes
basketball: vacant
Remember it's Arkansas...you need to list the Cross Country coach for comparison puroposes !!!
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:52 pm to bpfergu
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That being said, do all of you think that your respected sports coaches are well-behaved, faithful, drug-free, law-abiding citizens? Or do you think that they just do a better job of keeping their skeletons hidden in their closet?
Morality is a personal, specific thing. At this level, many of them have suspect morals, etc.
Petrino's problem goes way beyond "morality". He has a deplorable personal character that is immutable. If anybody thinks this is the first such arrangement he's set up - they're mistaken. Ditto for anybody who thinks this is an anomaly. He just got caught this time.
I told an Arkansas friend of mine 2 years ago - "His character is immutable, and the only questions are - 'How long will he be at Arkansas before it fully reveals itself and how much damage will that cause?'"
I feel vindicated.
Most big leage college coaches are very talented, gifted men (or, in Miles' case, just extremely freakin' lucky). Every human is flawed, most deeply flawed in some way. The way I view character is: Everybody is blessed with a certain set of gifts and everyone is saddled with a certain set of challenges. How we handle that balance defines our character. Petrino, from where I sit, has very little to admire in his character.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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Most big leage college coaches are very talented, gifted men (or, in Miles' case, just extremely freakin' lucky).
Ya just haaad to do it....
The good ones make their luck......js
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:56 pm to deltaland
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Spurrier - no except for drug free. I'm sure no HC in the SEC does drugs.
I'm not crazy about tOBC (thought he was sometimes childish at UF) but I never got the impression he misbehaved, cheated, used drugs, broke (NCAA) rules, etc.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:56 pm to lsusteve1
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Ya just haaad to do it....
I was joking - I'm a Miles supporter.
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The good ones make their luck......
Completely agree.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:58 pm to bpfergu
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do all of you think that your respected sports coaches are well-behaved, faithful, drug-free, law-abiding citizens? Or do you think that they just do a better job of keeping their skeletons hidden in their closet?
I bet it really pisses you off that Coach Taylor is still clean, even with all the rumors that are out, perennially, about him.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:59 pm to Swoopin
I guarantee that girl in Chizik's lap become an East Texas teacher.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:02 pm to parkjas2001
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I bet it really pisses you off that Coach Taylor is still clean, even with all the rumors that are out, perennially, about him.
I'm absolutely furious.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:11 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:You made that up.
Morality is a personal, specific thing
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:12 pm to bpfergu
Petrino is nasty white trash. Deal with it.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:14 pm to deltaland
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8. Muschamp - no to well behaved. yes to the rest.
Very well behaved. He put sir at the end of every sentence he directed toward that side judge.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:14 pm to Diamondawg
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You made that up.
It is 2012 - who defines what is "moral" or not?
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:17 pm to deltaland
quote:never heard the saban/candy rumors?
2. Saban - focuses on doing everything right, no record of wrongdoing, so yes.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:46 pm to bpfergu
It's more just that you're a bunch of pussies.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:48 pm to bpfergu
Chizik is too boring to pull strange pussy. Richt is too much like tebow, but has players who can get jiggy wit it. Coach Boom can and could hit it, but probably has not had time yet. Spurrier probably has, but needs viagra. Les Miles probably has a squeeze somewhere deep in da Bayou. Saban doesnt have sex. He just rubs one out. Freeze is too new. Dooley cant find his arse with both hands. Joker Phillips probably is screwing a half dozen white girls but with the New NC that Coach Cal brought home, nobody is noticing Joker. Franklin is probably gay. Mullen is happy doing is wife because he outkicked his coverage scoring her. Though I think Cam Newton fricked her.
No opinion on the SEC newbie teams.
No opinion on the SEC newbie teams.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:51 pm to bpfergu
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I posed a simple question and am hoping that through the plethora of "Oh you mad!" memes and jabs about anything and everything Arkansas, that some people that can actually be mature for a couple of minutes and tell me if they truthfully believe that their coaches, or coaches in general, are for the most part the same people behind close doors as they attempt to portray in the media and and public in general.
To be honest with you, back when Billy Gillespie coached at A&M, I kind of suspected that he might have secretly enjoyed a drink with the ladies now and then.
Seriously though, I think most of them are pretty much the same. The coaches I've known or strongly suspected to be "adventurous" mostly talked ball in public and didn't go around preaching faith & family like the newer generation of evangelical athletes and coaches, so hypocrisy wasn't exactly a big deal. I have no idea if Petrino fits into that category or not.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Same people that always have; society.
It is 2012 - who defines what is "moral" or not?
Posted on 4/9/12 at 2:13 pm to bpfergu
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I've had the opportunity to see many of you sit behind a computer screen and preach virtues of righteousness and cast stones in Arkansas' general direction for days now. I never realized that we had so many Popes and Mother Teresa's on these boards. Tebow would be proud.
That being said, do all of you think that your respected sports coaches are well-behaved, faithful, drug-free, law-abiding citizens? Or do you think that they just do a better job of keeping their skeletons hidden in their closet?
I think you are totally missing the point. Most of the heat on Petrino is not because he had an affair. Not many fans of any school would think that an affair is an offense worth of dismissal or even reprimand.
Petrino has other potential issues. Every university has code of conduct for professors and coaches with regard to students.
Did the affair begin while she was a student?
He hired his mistress as an employee. She is paid by ATH Dept funds, University funds. No matter how she got hired, if she was mistress at the time, he either used his position to help her get the gig or failed to mention to anyone that maybe just maybe it may not be a good idea to hire his mistress to a football operations position. Did he not have responsibility to to the AD or someone in the ADM to disclose the potential issue IF he was not behind the hiring in the first place? No matter how you slice it if she was mistress at time of her hiring it is a misuse of ATH department funds.
Filing a false police report. Violation of law but a minor one if not claiming insurance money.
Misleading employer about the accident and who was involved. If you have ever had employees you know how big an issue this is. You can't have it especially if the employee is someone who is followed by the media.
If Petrino is reprimanded or fired it will be the misuse of ATH Department funds and misleading Long and the Univ as the reason and not the affair.
He may survive it but the hiring of her in football operations while she was mistress is something most employers would have huge issue with.
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