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Question about Florida and MState

Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:44 am
They have been jousting back and forth of late. MState unhappy that Mullen left them for another SEC school, and countering that Mullen is not a good recruiter and pointing at the Florida class as it stands right now as proof.

Florida fans saying things like "...left you for a prettier girl.." and so forth. It's been entertaining, to say the least to watch.

But my question is this:

Which team has the better record this season?

MState plays in the tougher West division, so that gives Florida a bit of an edge. And, if Florida is, indeed, the "prettier girl", that would indicate they have the better program and players, but MState returns a lot of starters from last years team.

So, who will have the better season in 2018?
Posted by JortsOnTheRise
AL
Member since Aug 2012
241 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:51 am to
The real question should be which team will be more disappointed at the end of this season?
Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:54 am to
Ms State. I think Mullen has quote a rebuild on his hand, but I think UF's upside is a lot better/
Posted by coozie
Member since May 2018
228 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:56 am to
MSU will almost certainly have a better record this year. That's not indicative of program quality, though--Mullen left MSU in good shape but took over a dumpster fire.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:11 am to
Mullen has a good shot in the next 3-4 years at 1. Winning the East and 2. Winning the SEC. he’s a damn good coach and I wish LSU would have snatched him up. He molds QBs like no other in the conference.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:11 am to
quote:

The real question should be which team will be more disappointed at the end of this season?



Both are legitimate questions. But you didn't answer the question. I am not trolling. I am genuinely interested in seeing the responses.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95872 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:

The real question should be which team will be more disappointed at the end of this season?


Almost certainly Florida. MSU fans are, for the most part, realistic.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:

The real question should be which team will be more disappointed at the end of this season

State without a doubt. Florida has nowhere to go but up. They were so bad last season and State was pretty good.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11431 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:12 am to
We will see who is happier on Sept. 29th for sure.

I expect the Gators to win 9+ games so MSU will probably not win that many.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95872 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I expect the Gators to win 9+ games


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Ms State. I think Mullen has quote a rebuild on his hand, but I think UF's upside is a lot better/


I agree, that i think Florida has further to go, but Florida fans seem to think they have the talent to turn it around quickly. Add to that, they seem to see MState as inferior in talent even right now. That leads me to believe that Florida believes they should have the better year.

No doubt, Florida has the higher ceiling with the talent at their disposal, though.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:14 am to
Boy u are really pumped!!!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Mullen left MSU in good shape but took over a dumpster fire.

If this board is an accurate reflection of their fan base, Florida fans don't appear to feel that way.

Out fo curiosity for MState fans...if Florida beats you this year and has a better year, will that change your perception of Mullen?
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:17 am to
Mullen left because our AD told him he wasn’t worth $6M. Cohen was tired of his yearly shenanigans and told Mullen to go where they would pay him that.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by skadoosh14
Orlando, FL
Member since Jul 2018
405 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:17 am to
quote:

I expect the Gators to win 9+ games so MSU will probably not win that many.


Just please leave Megan alone if you see her at Publix after you get your Music City Bowl bid.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95872 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:17 am to
No. He left because Florida is a better program.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Mullen left because our AD told him he wasn’t worth $6M


That is false, Cohen did everything he could to keep Mullen.

Don't kid yourself.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18004 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:20 am to
Here is my prediction.

State is going to be shockingly good this season. In the four years of the College Football Playoff, MSU has entered the Egg Bowl three times with a New Years Six bowl on the line. They went 0-3 in those three Egg Bowls, but still managed one New Years Six bowl game.

I think they get another this year with a 9-3/10-2 type season.

Florida is a rebuild, and will need a quarterback to get them where Mullen can take them. They don't have that this year, but it will not take Mullen long to either recruit one or mold one. The man took Chris Relf to a 9 win SEC season and top 15 finish. That should never be forgotten and is probably his biggest coaching accomplishment.

The key for State's future is going to be not falling too far after 2018 season. Recruiting is looking solid - the '19 and '20 classes in the state of Mississippi are the best in history. Moorhead will most certainly return in 2019, but thats where it gets tricky. If he has a great season in '19 and a decent B1G job comes open, I don't think he possesses the problems that Mullen had in finding another job.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 9:22 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:22 am to
CNB Said: Almost certainly Florida.

quote:

State without a doubt.

See why I thought this was an interesting question?

Both of you are reasonable posters with very different perceptions. A lot of the Florida fans have been denigrating South Carolina with some predicting they (Florida) win the East this year.

On the other hand, MState fans point out they return 17 or 18 out of 22 starters off a team that won 9 games last season.

It just seems like MState has better talent right now, but play in the tougher west.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:24 am to
quote:

The real question should be which team will be more disappointed at the end of this season?


I would say Florida, unless they stink it up so bad first half of the season they have given up long before this point in the schedule:

10/27 UGA
11/3 Mizzou
11/10 SC
11/17 Idaho
11/24 @ FSU

Early signing day Dec. 19 - 21.


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