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QB Run Game: Should UK employ?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:24 pm
Given what Auburn did to the UGA D, should UK prep a QB run package with Destin Wade or maybe run some wildcat package with Davis and one of the other backs?
I know UGA will be talking run fits all week long, so they'll probably shore that up, but if you were Liam Coen, would you?
OR
Should UK rep that passing game as much as possible and try and clean up whatever the hell the miscues are between the receivers and Leary?
(Leary is not nearly as inaccurate as he has looked... I'm sure that he is expecting the receivers to sit down or change their routes passed on coverage, and they are either not doing it, or he's reading the D wrong. I've seen him drop too many dimes to think he's just that bad. He has floated a few too high, or slightly off target, but even most of his misfires are catchable. The drops... well, that's another thing. I think the bench might help a few guys to catch the ball better)
Any thoughts?
I know UGA will be talking run fits all week long, so they'll probably shore that up, but if you were Liam Coen, would you?
OR
Should UK rep that passing game as much as possible and try and clean up whatever the hell the miscues are between the receivers and Leary?
(Leary is not nearly as inaccurate as he has looked... I'm sure that he is expecting the receivers to sit down or change their routes passed on coverage, and they are either not doing it, or he's reading the D wrong. I've seen him drop too many dimes to think he's just that bad. He has floated a few too high, or slightly off target, but even most of his misfires are catchable. The drops... well, that's another thing. I think the bench might help a few guys to catch the ball better)
Any thoughts?
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:25 pm to The Architect
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Any thoughts?
Praying for y'all.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:25 pm to The Architect
Leary was pretty accurate as a passer at NC State. I don't get why he's had the issues at UK. Is the scheme that much different that it's throwing him off?
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:29 pm to Partha
I think he operated mostly from the gun at NC State. With UK he's got to be under center quite a lot, there's some boot game and other play action where he turns his back to the LOS, so, yeah there's been some adjustment for sure.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:34 pm to The Architect
Does Kentucky run 14 personnel?
If not, you are making irrelevant assumptions (that UGA will be in the same personnel and same scheme).
If not, you are making irrelevant assumptions (that UGA will be in the same personnel and same scheme).
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:40 pm to The Architect
If Coen has some QB counter read plays that they've already practiced then sure, you call them with your base personnel this week. I don't think bringing in a QB (or whoever) who isn't going to throw the ball and UGA knows isn't going to throw is a recipe for success unless UK really believes they can take UGA hat-on-a-hat on the OL.
One of the reasons Auburn had some success (success which a lot of people are overreacting to) is that Thorne was the QB running these plays instead of Ashford. If they put Ashford back there, UGA leaves an extra guy in the box and probably plays with the safeties closer to the LOS to account for what they think is coming.
One of the reasons Auburn had some success (success which a lot of people are overreacting to) is that Thorne was the QB running these plays instead of Ashford. If they put Ashford back there, UGA leaves an extra guy in the box and probably plays with the safeties closer to the LOS to account for what they think is coming.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:15 pm to The Architect
Our only chance is to be able to both run and pass. Leary is not a running QB and what we tried in the bowl game was a disaster.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:18 pm to Lynxrufus2012
Agreed. No way I want to see Wade out there. Leary isn't a runner but ride the horse that got you there I say.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:18 pm to The Architect
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:20 pm to Lynxrufus2012
I never said run Leary. I said should we use Wade at QB or a wildcat package to get some zone-read in the game.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:30 pm to The Architect
I wouldn’t change a thing.
Hand the ball to Ray Davis. Let the wall do its thing. Profit.
Hand the ball to Ray Davis. Let the wall do its thing. Profit.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:40 pm to meansonny
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Does Kentucky run 14 personnel?
If not, you are making irrelevant assumptions (that UGA will be in the same personnel and same scheme).
Just curious...
Did you mean 10 personnel (4 WR sets)?
Seems like Auburn was more in 10 or 11 than anything resembling 14, and when they were in 12 one of the TEs was split out from the formation, or lined up as an Hback.
Maybe I wasn't seeing the same thing?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:48 pm to meansonny
quote:Florida runs 13!
Does Kentucky run 14 personnel?
Jokes aside I don't expect Stoops to change anything from what we normally do and just hope we execute. Like we might use some different formations to get matchups but I don't see him trying to change identity to a QB run.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:51 pm to The Architect
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Does Kentucky run 14 personnel?
They might need 14 against Georgia.
If the 'Cats win out from here, beating Georgia, Mizzou, Tennessee, Mississippi State, Alabama and South Carolina it might have to be considered the greatest college football season ever.
It's not like it's not possible either.
All those remaining teams have weaknesses.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:03 pm to The Architect
You're 5-0. Act like it.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:55 pm to The Architect
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Any thoughts?
Our qb can't run
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:00 pm to kywildcatfanone
That’s not what I said…
….nevermind LOL
….nevermind LOL
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:03 pm to The Architect
How good is the backup?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:10 pm to The Architect
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I never said run Leary. I said should we use Wade at QB or a wildcat package to get some zone-read in the game.
If we run anyone out of a Wildcat package, it should be Robinson or Brown. Or run some more end-arounds.
As UKWildcats said, no way do I want to see Wade out there under center (and we won't).
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:41 pm to The Architect
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Just curious...
Did you mean 10 personnel (4 WR sets)?
Seems like Auburn was more in 10 or 11 than anything resembling 14, and when they were in 12 one of the TEs was split out from the formation, or lined up as an Hback.
Maybe I wasn't seeing the same thing?
They had 1 running back and 4 tight ends (one tight end lined up at the X. 3 tight ends would be on the opposite side at the Y, sniffer, and beside the QB).
You do realize that 14 personnel is based on personnel? Not where they line up (i.e. putting a tight end at X).
They ran QB counter off this personnel.
UGA was in an Oklahoma front. Everything tight in the box.
Auburn used a contracted formation to expand the play outside. The QB didn't get touched for 60 yards because the defense's keys were not aligned.
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