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re: Post Spring Consensus 2019 Preseason Rankings

Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:50 am to
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4539 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:50 am to
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I think we are too high but I can’t quite grasp why A&M is so high. Wtf have they done? Besides losing to MSU yet again....and yet again begin the season ranked inside the top 15.


What? When has A&M started in the top 15? Here are pre and post season rankings since joining the SEC:

2018 - NR -> 16
2017 - NR -> NR
2016 - NR -> NR
2015 - NR -> NR
2014 - 21 -> NR
2013 - 7 -> 18
2012 - NR -> 5

So two seasons over ranked and two under ranked. Sounds more like you have an A&M inferiority complex.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2297 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:21 am to
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A lot of the reason for their ranking is their high position in the computer polls.


Stupid computers. I'm not sure what metrics the programmers even use this time of year?

Stat's best possible finish is 7-5. Okay, 8-4 is possible, but highly unlikely. They won't be in anyone's final Top 25. But, hey, Thanks, Dan!!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

the bama/uga winner will be in

Bama doesn't play UGA this year.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

1. Clemson- 221
2. Alabama- 219
3. Georgia- 208

Week 2
Week 6
Week 11

Throw in weeks 4, 8, and 12.




Hmmm!!!




This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Bama doesn't play UGA this year.


they will
Posted by KYHunter110
Lexington
Member since Dec 2016
466 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:08 am to
We return 3 starters on the OL this year?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30873 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:12 am to
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ND and Texas should be higher


ND?

WHY?

They played no one and skirted into the playoffs. Even Clemson's players acknowledged they were a joke and admitted they barely prepped for them - spent the time before the playoffs prepping for Alabama.

ND 2018 was ND 2012 part 2.
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:15 am to
State's win total over/under is 8 in Vegas. Go put your money where your mouth is.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:35 am to
Clemson won't be the same team they were last year. They do not have the personnel on defense to replace the caliber of players who were drafted in the NFL. The offense will be good as long as the starting rb stays healthy. After him there is no depth at rb.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83459 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:37 am to
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Getting an early start on the trolling this morning


I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how it shakes out for the most part, though. Obviously there are always surprise teams that are hard to account for this far out.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:46 am to
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they will

I think Florida's going to surprise some people this year.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:48 am to
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Stupid computers. I'm not sure what metrics the programmers even use this time of year?

Stat's best possible finish is 7-5. Okay, 8-4 is possible, but highly unlikely.


I think those advanced statistics computer rankings are not necessarily trying to predict wins/losses, its really about how good a team actually is.

For example, if MSU is 8-4 with losses to Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, and Auburn, they are most definitely going to finish behind an 11-1 UCF.... however, which team is actually the higher quality team? Wins and losses don't tell you that.

I think what S&P and FPI are saying is that MSU is going to likely be a Top 15 or Top 20 team next year in terms of how good it actually is. But if it happens to play and lose to 4 Top 10 or 12 teams, that doesn't change the fact of how good they are.... it just means they played a tougher schedule.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
893 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:51 am to
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I think Florida's going to surprise some people this year.


Why? They will lose @LSU, vs UGA, and one of AUB, @USC, @MIZZ
Posted by TexTigah81
Member since Nov 2013
545 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:52 am to
gA&M too high
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:57 am to
How many chickens are there in the picture below...?

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9000 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:11 pm to
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very impressive after losing the players they did from the draft.


Only if they finish that high or above. Depth charts are considered, but work done in the previous season absolutely influences these polls.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:22 pm to
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hat's all Mullen. It's hard to overstate the change in national perception of State football from 2008 to 2019.


'

Thanks Danny Boy
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4757 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:24 pm to
I think LSU should be ahead of Georgia. The game last year wasn't even close. LSU returns more starters. Georgia does have a slight edge in recruiting (#2 class vs number #5). On a neutral field, I think LSU would win again. I'm not sure Georgia will be top 3 all season. But both teams have the chance if the win the games they should.

It will be interesting to compare games down the stretch. Both teams get A&M at home. They both play Florida and Auburn, but LSU gets those at home. Of course, LSU obviously has the harder schedule with Bama in Tuscaloosa. Georgia will likely play Bama in the SEC championship, though.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:39 pm to
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We return 3 starters on the OL this year?


And a 5 star OT returns from injury.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:41 pm to
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I think LSU should be ahead of Georgia. The game last year wasn't even close


1 game last year has nothing to do with where each should be ranked going into 2019.

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