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Playing devils advocate here: Aren't college players pros now anyway?

Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:05 pm
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:05 pm
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8 USC § 1154(i)(2)

professional athlete
(2) “Professional athlete” defined For purposes of paragraph (1), the term “professional athlete” means an individual who is employed as an athlete by— (A) a team that is a member of an association of 6 or more professional sports teams whose total combined revenues exceed $10,000,000 per year, if the association governs the conduct of its members and regulates the contests and exhibitions in which its member teams regularly engage; or (B) any minor league team that is affiliated with such an association.



I am pretty sure revenue sharing with the schools athletic departments would count. Every other element seems to be met as well.

So as a Devil's Advocate, what is really stopping them from going to the NFL and coming back? The argument of "amateurism" is kind of shot now. And rules don't really apply anymore anyway.

College sports are dead.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:06 pm to
If we are being honest, yes.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:08 pm to
They doesn’t mean that rules can’t be established. (Or adhered to)

Recruiting
Roster limits
Transfer Portal rules
Tampering
Eligibility
Punishments and suspensions
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted by RaginAstros
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:08 pm to
BINGO!!!!!!!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:10 pm to
Are you just listing the issues? Because also the transfer portal shouldnt open until after title game IMO
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

They doesn’t mean that rules can’t be established. (Or adhered to)

Recruiting
Roster limits
Transfer Portal rules
Tampering
Eligibility
Punishments and suspensions


The problem is the NCAA can't enforce any of its rules, apparently and the conferences are selectively enforcing what rules they enforce.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Gator Fever
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:11 pm to
It's a crazy situation. Some of those Canadian pros could outplay some of these college players that make much more than them.Cignetti could probably easily field a championship team with just NFL camp cuts only that were free agents or 6th and 7th round picks.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:16 pm to
NIL should not have been implemented before creating rules governing portal and eligibility.
Too many different competing interests from TV to conferences to player agents that has made it next to impossible to come to any consensus on anything.
NCAA Football should be one entity to itself with one person in charge
NCAA Basketball should be one entity to itself with one person in charge
No more conferences in theses sports

Minor sports should be able to fund and sustain their own sports and not piggyback off football and baseball and probably should go back to amateur status with full scholarships with minimal rosters.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

The problem is the NCAA can't enforce any of its rules, apparently and the conferences are selectively enforcing what rules they enforce.


Right. I get Ole Miss respecting Jayden by getting Chambliss a 6th year, but if they go the punishment route and the 6th year granted by a homer judge isn’t addressed, the SEC will get sued and lose. Not by LSU, but by an affected athlete.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Are you just listing the issues? Because also the transfer portal shouldnt open until after title game IMO


Yeah. The NCAA may lose every court case to eternity.

But College Football needs to get a handle on it. So the conferences have to take charge.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

The problem is the NCAA can't enforce any of its rules, apparently and the conferences are selectively enforcing what rules they enforce.


Agreed.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:23 pm to
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So the conferences have to take charge.


The next step will be schools ditching conferences all together. This isn't a game the NCAA or Conferences can win now.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:23 pm to
I really have a problem with some of them. But I really dont see how some teams can get players from others while the games are still being played. Obviously teams still in the hunt arent worrying about portal yet. And it then it caused what we saw last year with kiffin leaving early
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:26 pm to
Conferences provide strength in unity.
Players’ agents have been pitting conferences against each other to manipulate the system.

Sure. A school can leave a conference. But good luck trying to put the schedule together.

Posted by Jauquismos
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:27 pm to
Yes. The innocence of college athletics, namely football, is gone. I don't want to hear "don't bad mouth him he's just a kid". That goes out the window when you start being compensated.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:28 pm to
Ohh for sure.

We dont know what each is making though.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:28 pm to
Lots of problems.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

The next step will be schools ditching conferences all together. This isn't a game the NCAA or Conferences can win now.


The conferences can if they get to together and agree on the ground rules in a FAIR and CONSISTENT manner.
Posted by tigerspin
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:37 pm to
It seems like every new issue that comes up gets met with “college football is dead”

But when are people going to actually process that sentence and understand that the old college football really is dead and we’re not going back. The eligibility stuff may get reigned in a little but it’s never going back to the way it used to be.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Conferences provide strength in unity.
Players’ agents have been pitting conferences against each other to manipulate the system.

Sure. A school can leave a conference. But good luck trying to put the schedule together.


What happens if the top 5 or 6 schools from each conference decide to break away and form their own league? They would have to pay some penalties to the conferences I'm sure but that would be the end of that. That league could name it's price as far as tv money goes.

That's where this is all heading. A full blown NFL minor league.
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