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re: Pick a Football Coach: Kirby vs Saban
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:25 pm to Dallasgrowl
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:25 pm to Dallasgrowl
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listening to the other voices in that punkin of yours or you are the proverbial pot to the
Hate to break it to you, but You responded to a post involving the word "humiliation".
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:26 pm to djsdawg
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A secondary Full of stars" you have said......
Aaron Davis unranked
Dominick sanders low 3*
Jr reed unranked
Deandre baker low 3*
All juniors and seniors and most probably going to make their way to the NFL aka, they're going to be stars. And you want to call other people retarded?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Kirby had a shite ton of luck this year that the East is one of the worst its been in a hot minute and that its two primary rivals were in the middle of getting rid of dead weight coaches
Right, which is why UGA fricking destroyed everyone in the East. UF, UT, etc. are cupcakes and were treated as such.
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to get a rematch against a depleted Auburn team that boatraced you without effort.
...and whipped their asses when it counted.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:28 pm to Dallasgrowl
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Hmmm, you must be listening to the other voices in that punkin of yours or you are the proverbial pot to the kettle.
No point in arguing with your dumbass, good day sir!
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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All juniors and seniors and most probably going to make their way to the NFL aka, they're going to be stars.
It's a good thing Kirby developed them so well.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What? You mean like two 5* running backs coming back for their final year in tandem?
No. Nothing like that. They were nothing but underachieving mid rounders after 2016. Far from a miracle.
Hey, remember when You claimed the uga offense comprised of those 2 running The ball 70% of the time? What an idiot
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What? You mean like two 5* running backs coming back for their final year in tandem?
how is that luck? I guess UF was "lucky" one of the program's best all time players in tebow came back?
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You mean like a coach leaving your team with a team chalk full with rising talent?
We don't win what we do this year without kirby, that's a fact. Fact #1- if richt is here, Fromm isn't but bailey hockman is. Our starting RT isn't here. A starting safety that transferred isn't here. Our outstanding punter isn't here. I could go on.
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You mean like Florida and Tennessee both having terrible teams and ending up firing their head coaches?
"UGA is lucky" has nothing to do with other teams. Sure they may be down, but that doesn't diminish the quality of our own team. And btw, us beating UF and UT by a combined 83-7 kinda transcends "luck".
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You mean like no ranked teams in the SEC East outside of Georgia?
MSU was ranked 17th when we buttpummeled them. AU was ranked 2nd when we beat them by 3 TDs.
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You mean like having to play two actual regular season games and getting the breaks beaten off of you by Auburn and barely winning against Notre Dame?
you're reaching, badly. How many "actual" games did bama have to play? FSU andd..Auburn? Hmm kinda sounds like us by your logic.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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juniors and seniors and most probably going to make their way to the NFL aka, they're going to be stars. And you want to call other people retarded?
Don't play dumb with that spin job. You have talked up our 4 and 5 star loaded defense, which includes the secondary, which is why Recruiting stars are listed. That's 6 total stars for 4 players.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:37 pm to djsdawg
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Hate to break it to you, but You responded to a post involving the word "humiliation".
Fair enough. Bottom line is Kirby is no better than any other challenger that fell to Saban and Alabama for the national championship in recent history. Before you get too indignant, that includes the grass eating buffoon that grazed the sideline at LSU for too many years. But at least you can hang your hat on crossing the 50 yard line multiple times and punching it into the end zone a few.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:39 pm to Dallasgrowl
Or maybe he is better than those other challengers. For instance, He doesn't have the glaring weakness at qb like les had and he is recruiting better.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:42 pm to DirtyDawg
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"He needs to prove himself!" they yell while ignoring his SEC championship, Rose Bowl trophy, and near national title win against tGOAT coach
But you are literally comparing him to the tGOAT coach. That's the point here. If he was being compared to anyone else I'd agree.
And even with that, it becomes a take the risk over 15 years vs take a guaranteed return over 5-7 proposition. Not a ridiculous question.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:44 pm to deeprig9
Going forward, how is it not Kirby?
Taking either at the beginning of their careers, Saban easily.
Taking either at the beginning of their careers, Saban easily.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:46 pm to deeprig9
I'd still take Saban but it's a legit question, people are dismissing the age difference way more than they should.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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it becomes a take the risk over 15 years vs take a guaranteed return over 5-7 proposition.
Eh i think after 3 or 4 more years it gets dicey with Saban
but knowing what you're getting for those 3-4 years plus the possibility of more, it's still Saban.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:48 pm to djsdawg
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But With the help of miracles. That's a key distinction
Yet he beat the coach that UGA can't stop patting themselves on the back for taking to OT. And there was nothing lucky about that victory. Luck would have Alabama's kicker making a 60 yard FG with less than a second on the clock. It's funny how much credit you give Kirby, but Gus gets no credit for calling a timeout and getting his return man back on that absurd FG attempt.
You also conveniently leave out the fact that Auburn didn't lose by 23 points to anyone that season, and the SEC West had 4 teams finish in the top 20 and 6 of 7 teams had winning records and went to bowl games.
I get it, we needed hail marry completion to win a game, but every game that is decided by less than 3 comes down to a play or 2. What if Godwin doesn't make that ridiculous (and probably somewhat lucky) catch against ND on 3rd down? Does that mean UGA settles for a FG and loses by 3 points?
Calling what Gus did in 2013 as luck and what Kirby did in 2017 as unbelievable coaching just isn't fair and is a biased opinion.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Eh i think after 3 or 4 more years it gets dicey with Saban
I guess my point was as close to a guarantee of 1-2 National Titles over a 5-7 year span as exists in college football. Not necessarily that they will equally come over 7 years. Obviously even that isn't an actual "guarantee", but when you start doing valuations on the returns you'd give it the highest % chance of anyone.
This feels too much like work
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:49 pm to djsdawg
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Or maybe he is better than those other challengers. For instance, He doesn't have the glaring weakness at qb like les had and he is recruiting better.
Anything is possible, but unlike what most of you Georgia guys are running off about, it is not in anyway guaranteed by a class or two in the top five and a load of quarterbacks on the roster. The last time I checked, only one can play at a time.
Give it a fricking rest and watch a season or two more. Maybe you are right, but history is on the side of the rarity of emerging dynasties and even rarer of those that beat the midget in Tuscaloosa regularly.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:50 pm to Dallasgrowl
Has Kirby received a vote yet?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:53 pm to Vecchio Cane
The thing about this that nobody has brought up is Saban comes as close as possible to guaranteeing you a championship over the next 5 years. Kirby is more of a risk.
Georgia hasn't won a title in forever and are starved for one. It'd be hella hard to trade a guarantee of 1 title for the possibility of 2-3 IMHO in that situation. 2007 me would have said "give me the 1 and lets call it a day".
Georgia hasn't won a title in forever and are starved for one. It'd be hella hard to trade a guarantee of 1 title for the possibility of 2-3 IMHO in that situation. 2007 me would have said "give me the 1 and lets call it a day".
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:55 pm
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