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re: Peter Burns (ESPN) ranks the top 10 best college football jobs
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:59 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:59 pm to Irons Puppet
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So where they at the top prior to Saban ?
We gladly paid him more money than anyone else had ever been paid and an amount that you and your ilk laughed at as being an obscene amount. So yeah, our willingness to pay top dollar makes it a top job.
Speaking of top dollar...how much money are we gonna have to spend on buyouts the next time we change coaches? Imagine being able to put in, oh, I don't know, how about an extra $28,500,000 into coaches' salaries because you're not paying a buyout?
Then, when you actually win, those PTB that you were yapping about stay the hell out of the way.
Throw in the fact that anyone with a pulse can win 10 games at Alabama. Mike Shula won 10. Bill Curry won 10. How many did that dumbass Doug Barfield win at Auburn. Hell, even he could have won 10 at Bama.
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:59 pm to Irons Puppet
All the things a college coach and parents look for. We have facilities and NFL development and Milledge Ave for the recruits
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:02 pm to BamaGradinTn
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We gladly paid him more money than anyone else had ever been paid and an amount that you and your ilk laughed at as being an obscene amount. So yeah, our willingness to pay top dollar makes it a top job.
Speaking of top dollar...how much money are we gonna have to spend on buyouts the next time we change coaches? Imagine being able to put in, oh, I don't know, how about an extra $28,500,000 into coaches' salaries because you're not paying a buyout?
Then, when you actually win, those PTB that you were yapping about stay the hell out of the way.
Throw in the fact that anyone with a pulse can win 10 games at Alabama. Mike Shula won 10. Bill Curry won 10. How many did that dumbass Doug Barfield win at Auburn. Hell, even he could have won 10 at Bama.
It had nothing to due with Saban wanting out of Miami and the NFL.
I guess with the exception of Barfield, anyone at Auburn can win 10 games also. And three can actually go undefeated.
:rotflmao:Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:04 pm to tylerdurden24
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All the things a college coach and parents look for. We have facilities and NFL development and Milledge Ave for the recruits
NFL development is a reflection of the current coach, not the water in the area.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:14 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Nothing I just said is even debatable.
Well then folks. It’s not debatable.
So this is all you've got. No facts, no points to show as evidence or rebuttal.
Game, set, and match. It's over.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:14 pm to WildcatMike
Ive heard it argued that if you had a gun to your head and you had to win a national championship from scratch in five years, that Texas, Southern Cal or Florida State are the only choices.
Amazing that none of those three are in his top 10.
Amazing that none of those three are in his top 10.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:25 pm to Irons Puppet
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It had nothing to due with Saban wanting out of Miami and the NFL.
Well....At the end of 2006 going into 2007 there were several 'major' NCAA jobs open and available for Saban. He could have gone back to Michigan State, Arizona State, Indiana or even Miami. Why didn't he? Was it all about the money? If so, why didn't he leave for Texas when they made that unreal offer a few years back.
I'm not sure why you're hating on Bama and Saban. Really you should be thankful for Alabama's success as it has caused AU to elevate their 'game' so to speak. Before Saban. AU was content to pull a 7-5 or 8-4 season; if that season included a victory over Bama. Things are pretty much the same but now that victory over Bama usually puts AU in a position to play for something more than a minor bowl game.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:30 pm to anc
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Ive heard it argued that if you had a gun to your head and you had to win a national championship from scratch in five years, that Texas, Southern Cal or Florida State are the only choices.
Amazing that none of those three are in his top 10.
If I were in this hypothetical situation, I'd be headed to Ohio State.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:51 pm to BamaGradinTn
Recruiting. And proximity to said talent. That alone makes USC one of the best jobs in the country. The moment USC makes a competent hire, the talent stays home and stops streaming out of Southern California.
Stop being a prisoner of the moment. Not unlike the quoted portion of the OP.
Stop being a prisoner of the moment. Not unlike the quoted portion of the OP.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:25 pm to TS1926
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Well....At the end of 2006 going into 2007 there were several 'major' NCAA jobs open and available for Saban. He could have gone back to Michigan State, Arizona State, Indiana or even Miami. Why didn't he? Was it all about the money? If so, why didn't he leave for Texas when they made that unreal offer a few years back.
I'm not sure why you're hating on Bama and Saban. Really you should be thankful for Alabama's success as it has caused AU to elevate their 'game' so to speak. Before Saban. AU was content to pull a 7-5 or 8-4 season; if that season included a victory over Bama. Things are pretty much the same but now that victory over Bama usually puts AU in a position to play for something more than a minor bowl gam
Saban chose Bama because they were the best available choice at that time. Bama was as dysfunctional as any program in the country at that time, but Mal Moore made some promises that Saban believed. Again, thank Drummond for keeping those promises or Saban would have gotten the hell out of town. Like I said, AU has had three undefeated coaches since Dye, I do not think we owe Saban for any of those years.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:32 pm to WildcatMike
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LSU
Disagree on this one. Their fans expect a lot, and they are in a tough area imo to recruit. LA has to produce a lot of talent and they have to keep Bama, FL, and Ole Miss out of their backyards for recruits.
The UK one I dont get either. They dont win at a high rate, or have fantastic facilities or recruits. Stoops has just done a fantastic job with them. Other coaches couldnt do it.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:32 pm to Krampus
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If I were in this hypothetical situation, I'd be headed to Ohio State.
The argument against Ohio State was at the time, the B1G had some competition with Penn State, Wisconsin, etc.
Florida State has zero excuse not to be an elite program year in and year out. SEC facilities. SEC fans. Great location. ACC competition.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:34 pm to anc
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Ive heard it argued that if you had a gun to your head and you had to win a national championship from scratch in five years, that Texas, Southern Cal or Florida State are the only choices.
Amazing that none of those three are in his top 10.
No way with FSU. UCF has grown and UF is UF. FSU fans are too fickle and that program is in a bad state.
Ohio State, Bama, Clemson. They all have to $ and bag men to get the job done.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:38 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Dead
Where is Drummond today
quote:you dont see him around as much compared to when Mal was the AD. Comes to practice a little, but spends most of his time entertaining customers at his various farms in Al and Arky
How is Bear Jr these days ?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:54 pm to GamecockUltimate
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They dont win at a high rate, or have fantastic facilities
Lulz
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:58 pm to GamecockUltimate
Les Miles and Ed Orgeron, two people that I’m not certain can do long division, won national championships at LSU.
It’s one of the easiest places in the country to win apparently.
It’s one of the easiest places in the country to win apparently.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:59 pm to MetArl15
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Les Miles and Ed Orgeron, two people that I’m not certain can do long division, won national championships at LSU.
It’s one of the easiest places in the country to win apparently.
Damn I hate that you swayed me here, but thats true
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:14 pm to MetArl15
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Les Miles and Ed Orgeron, two people that I’m not certain can do long division, won national championships at LSU.
Miles may or may not be able to do long division, but Orgeron will go full angry caveman if you even mention such witchcraft.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:15 pm to Irons Puppet
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Again, thank Drummond for keeping those promises or Saban would have gotten the hell out of town.
This is patently false. I know for a fact, I don't claim to know many things but this one I do, Drummond had zero to do with Alabama getting and retaining Saban. In fact, Drummond was against it.
So you admit Alabama was a better job at the time than the ones I mentioned. But just using your logic, Saban is so great he could have turned any of those programs into perennial title contenders and even winners. I mean, after all, Alabama was a dead program in a shitty place that no one wanted. Right?
Tempe or even East Lansing would have been a much, much better venue that Tuscaloosa Alabama in 2007 right?
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:17 pm to WildcatMike
Kentucky?
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