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civiltiger07
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Many times the players that are picked in the 35th round are high end high school talent that set their price high. Then teams take a flyer late just Incase something happens.

Also recruiting rankings aren’t done using the draft position. I’m not sure you understand your point.


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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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Since 2015 classes lose the better players to drafts and transfers, what if we just do 2016-2018


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14. Kentucky (26, 6, 11) (no NCAAT)


Kentucky’s recruiting showed last season with its first Super appearance. Most of those guys, while making it to campus, left early. Especially in the bullpen that got them to the Super.


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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You don't get the point.

The players that become stars in college baseball are often the undrafted players who developed late.
The rankings will rank them low.


You have to mix being able to talk the stars from playing in the minors and also to find the players who will eventually become draft picks.


Not really - this isn't a list of where kids were drafted. Those are very skewed between 1st round will sign kids and then kids who are very good but not quite 1st/2nd round quality who teams take fliers on in the late rounds hoping to sign if they have slot money.

The rankings clearly do matter, as teams in the Top 10 are the teams that consistently contend for the CWS while teams in the 40-60 range are ones who routinely don't make the NCAAT.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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Many times the players that are picked in the 35th round are high end high school talent that set their price high. Then teams take a flyer late just Incase something happens.

Also recruiting rankings aren’t done using the draft position. I’m not sure you understand your point.


Exactly - many of those 35th round kids are ranked highly via PG. Outside of the Top 30 kids or so the draft does not generally correlate to PG rankings.


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Woopigsooie20
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Not surprising with Tennessee uptick there, Vitello is a top 5 recruiter. I think Arkansas 2020 class is ranked #1 right now


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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Who said it did?



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SummerOfGeorge
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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Not surprising with Tennessee uptick there, Vitello is a top 5 recruiter. I think Arkansas 2020 class is ranked #1 right now


Serrano recruited pretty well too.

They had some hits and some misses, but even in their bad years they generally had a MLB quality early round draft pick on their team.


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Montgomery Hill
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
College Baseball is about all development.

Recruiting rankings show who was a player coming out of High School.
Not who will be a better player in 3 years.



SummerOfGeorge
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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College Baseball is about all development.

Recruiting rankings show who was a player coming out of High School.
Not who will be a better player in 3 years.


Don't disagree, but PG and others are pretty good at this point at identifying raw tools that have the potential to be developed if they see you at a PG event. And their rankings are based on that.

The best coaches identify those raw tools in kids and then can develop them.
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civiltiger07
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
This is a weird argument.


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Montgomery Hill
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
75% of the high end talent gets taken from college baseball.

Like I said...

Recruiting rankings aren't always showing the players who will eventually become drafted in the first 5 rounds out of college.
College baseball coaches have to develop the rest into these type of players
Or like I said get the player to pick college baseball over the minor leagues. Out of the top talent only about 25% of those players decide to play college baseball.
The track record with those 25% is hit or miss.
It worked for Nick Lodelo this year for TCU but not all the time.


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
So that #50 and #85 are Gaspard’s last class and Goff’s only class? What a parting gift those were.


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Montgomery Hill
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Not all the time.

Every baseball player is different.

Truthfully the value in college baseball isn't Recruiting rankings it is producing players drafted in the Top 5-10 rounds.
Then players who are on the fence are more willing to give your program the chance.

Texas for the most part hasn't recruited at a supposed high level and they still have been able to win more times than most.


CapstoneGrad06
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
What is this hill you’re trying to die on?


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Slackaveli
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Surprised we arent higher too. And, my God, Vandy is cheatin...


Montgomery Hill
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Vanderbilt and Corbin have proved their ability to get players drafted.
Corbin didn't start Vandy with a bunch of top recruits.
He can convince a lot of players that he can do a better job than a lot of organizations in baseball.


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deltaland
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
South Carolina should have a very talented upper class group this year. Wtf happened


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Drewbie
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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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Baseball Recruiting rankings don't really mean much
I wouldn't go THAT far. They're very good indicators of what teams got demolished by the draft and which ones didn't. Recruiting rankings BEFORE the draft mean nothing. After the draft is a whole different story.


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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
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SummerOfGeorge


Just FYI you're an excellent poster.


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