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re: Pac12 is dead; are we next?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:41 pm to Peepdip
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:41 pm to Peepdip
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Naw man those stupid liberals hate brain damage. They need to toughen up and realize having a brain ain't the most important thing in the world
Give the liberals anything and they will screw it up. I wonder how they got the brain they do have---their thinking is evidence that liberals can screw that up, too.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:48 pm to HTDawg
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No they don't. Most things in life don't carry the risk of CTE or serious brain damage.
Driving a car back and forth to work??? People fall walking everyday.
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A fairly recent study showed 110 of 111 players had signs of CTE.
Of players who have died. Meaning most likely prior to to most changes
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:49 pm to Groundscrew85
Ezekiel Elliot May have something to say about that.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:55 pm to RatRodDawg
RatRodDawg and TigerOnTheMountain
Read this you mental pigmies.
Read this you mental pigmies.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:55 pm to DeafJam73
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We don’t like to take risks anymore. We prefer to take the easy road.
You do understand why risks are taken right? People don’t take risks because they don’t have to take risks. Football, basketball, baseball, and track aren’t the only sports a high school offers anymore. And if you’re not gifted with natural talent to play football, there is no long term pay off to incentivize playing football compared to other sports in the minds of a lot of parents. All the intangible lessons about teamwork and leadership and working for something can now be found in other cheaper, allegedly safer options.
And this is happening because parents across the political spectrum (this has nothing to do with liberalism; what an idiotic assertion) recognize that it’s not the same high school game as it was in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Kids are just bigger and faster now than they ever have been before and the hitting is more devastating for that reason. And for the record, it’s not the big hits that are causing the problems but the sub concussive hits over time. That’s why primarily defensive players, linemen, and long tenured QBs are exhibiting CTE symptoms because they tend to absorb the majority of these smaller sub conclusive hits that jostle the brain. It’s also why 7 on 7 has taken off but we all can agree we love the game because of the physicality. The problem is parents rightfully don’t want to subject their kids to that violence (but I’m perfectly fine subjecting your kid to it, especially if they’re a 5* and commit to UGA).
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:01 pm to HTDawg
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The real breakthrough is if they can diagnose it in living patients.
That's the $64 question.
Did some reading on this a while back. We are going to see this testable on live patients (protein formation) anywhere from a year or two down the road, to a decade, max.
Now, we know the kind of board we have, for good or ill, agree or disagree.
Stating a fact leads to all kinds of crazy dissembling that only makes sense to the one doing that.
Here's what I think will be shown to be a fact, once this kind of test becomes available:
1) You will be able to show the formation of the tau proteins in high school kids. By that I mean you will literally see signs of Tau protein formation after ONE year of HIGH SCHOOL ball. Not all postion groups, but the ones most at risk.
Actually the high schools most likely to be studied will probably be ones that play at extreme levels of competition like 5A or 6A in Georgia. (whereas someone playing 8 man ball with 160 pound kids in Wyoming might not develop it).
2) Pick some school like Duke. If you can show that virtually all the offensive linemen have things like pre-existing Tau protein formation, and it EXACERBATES after just one season, or heck after just like 6 games...
This sport is finished. And it will vanish so quickly it will make heads spin.
Most high schools will not be able to afford insurance - even if some company is actually willing to write a policy.
Colleges will drop football (maybe not a lot of SEC schools - at first) as quickly as their lawyers say it is wise (gotta strike the pose for possible lawsuits from former players).
The NFL is gone too.
Sure, sure, sensationalistic fantasy? Maybe. But when this test becomes available (and it will), you better hope results like I mentioned aren't par for the course.
A whole lotta lawyers are gonna jump in with both feet I bet. The NFL made some kind of settlement with a group of players a while back about this issue. But I don't think that will be a magic bullet that protects them from future litigation related to this.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:05 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I would have used Jared Goff for the point you’re trying to make since his guaranteed money is more than Zeekes whole contract. But what good is money when you’re constantly in pain and hooked on painkillers.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:09 pm to Groundscrew85
Just want to point out that Stanford is going to beat the shitty private school in LA this Saturday.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:13 pm to Bengalbio
Changing demographics. Tens of millions both legal and illegal have come to this country who have no interest in football. Most Asians and Hispanics and others don't play the sport. Participation will continue to go down.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:19 pm to Dallasgrowl
Dallasgrowl…..you link an article from N..P..R! What a joke of a news organization. They epitomize FAKE NEWS. Anything to further the "climate warming" agenda, they'll do.
Sorry, you're batting ZERO.
Sorry, you're batting ZERO.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:20 pm to Jjdoc
The good news is their soccer teams will blow the shite out of everyone else. As far as the politics go - it sounds crazy now, but even those states will start swinging back right over time - its just the way America works. People don't come to America like flies on shite to be poor and for their kids to be poor. Once one party is in power and doesn't get the shite done over a sufficient period of time the people throw them out.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:23 pm to SEC7070
I don't know if its so much demographics as it is people are just enjoying soccer and parents think its safer. The trajectory for most kids my age here in Texas in the days if you were smaller than 6 feet tall was to play football until you just couldn't do it anymore (you weren't fast enough).
The trajectory now is play soccer until junior high, give football a shot, and then go back to soccer if your good, or lacrosse if it looks like there is more opportunity there.
That's pretty much all kids in Texas, not just Hispanics and Asians. It's the white suburban way.
The trajectory now is play soccer until junior high, give football a shot, and then go back to soccer if your good, or lacrosse if it looks like there is more opportunity there.
That's pretty much all kids in Texas, not just Hispanics and Asians. It's the white suburban way.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:29 pm to tylerdurden24
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nd this is happening because parents across the political spectrum (this has nothing to do with liberalism; what an idiotic assertion) recognize that it’s not the same high school game as it was in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Kids are just bigger and faster now than they ever have been before and the hitting is more devastating for that reason.
Football just isn't what it used to be. I hung my cleats up after the last game, put on my basketball shoes, and played. Spring rolled around it was baseball or track. Took weight training and didn't do a dam thing until 2-a-days.
My son plays at a pretty high level. Camps and 7 on 7 all summer, where he gets invited to other camps, farther way. It's very expensive. After the actual football season there are invite teams/ games. He plays through Christmas/ New Years.
Now he's a freshman at a big football school. He'll never be able to get a summer job. The requirements are year round.
And as you said, the kids are so dam big. 220 lb LB's and 270 lb linemen (that can move) all over the place....in the 7th and 8th grade. Mama's don't want their babies getting concussions. Kids who develop late quit. They want no part of the full grown men they have to deal with.
You have to really love football to play. Wanting to wear a jersey on Friday isn't enough any more. Here in metro ATL Lacrosse is sucking all the athletic white kids away from football. I suspect it'll level off at some point.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:33 pm to oman
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Just want to point out that Stanford is going to beat the shitty private school in LA this Saturday.
Stanford's playing Mt. St. Mary's? Good luck, I hear they've gotta an A-1 RB with a top-notch DL. Hopefully, their mascot doesn't pee on you trees.
Trees are stupid. Stanford's stupid. Stanford sucks.
As for USC...61-33-3, Trojans.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:34 pm to HTDawg
Relax comrade and go to a safe space with no toxic masculinity
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:36 pm to phil4bama
Players are bigger, stronger, faster, and far more explosive than when I played.
The field is the same size so the collisions are occurring in the same space at higher velocities, accelerations, and mass.
Make the field wider by 10 yards or so and we will slow down some of the terminal velocity collisions.
Also in high school, limited substitution would reduce player size by emphasizing fitness over mass.
Overtraining is tearing their bodies up at younger ages. Parents should encourage their kids to play another sport or swim, run, bike, golf, etc.
The field is the same size so the collisions are occurring in the same space at higher velocities, accelerations, and mass.
Make the field wider by 10 yards or so and we will slow down some of the terminal velocity collisions.
Also in high school, limited substitution would reduce player size by emphasizing fitness over mass.
Overtraining is tearing their bodies up at younger ages. Parents should encourage their kids to play another sport or swim, run, bike, golf, etc.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:37 pm to LouisvilleKat
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Are you a parody account?
Didn't know you Wildcats would be interested, but I should have known that about your program. You sound like a diehard fan.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:39 pm to Jjdoc
quote:False comparison. I CAN get hurt worse in a wreck going 70 mph, but have had only 1 accident in the past decade, and that didn't involve sudden change of direction. To equate football to driving, you'd have to "park" by slamming your car into a wall going 15-20 mph... maybe 30 times a week or more.quote:
No they don't. Most things in life don't carry the risk of CTE or serious brain damage.
Driving a car back and forth to work???
I love football too, but I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle.
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