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re: OU President David Boren puts Texas/Big12 on notice.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:52 pm to OU_Fan
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:52 pm to OU_Fan
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Michigan, Penn State, and Tennessee have the largest stadiums in college football
Tennessee doesn't even have the largest stadium in their own conference. The largest stadium in the SEC is in College Station.
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:05 pm to RT1941
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This is exactly what was said about UT & aTm. Folks even pointed to the Texas legislation that glued those two schools together for eternity........then aTm said frick you were going to the SEC
That's a simplistic misrepresentation of what happened.
Had Mike McKinney still been the chancellor at A&M, A&M would be in the Big 12 right now.
Here's the 2011 timeline and how it played out:
July 2011 - Mike McKinney resigns, John Sharp becomes chancellor. This was huge because McKinney was the reason Sherman was hired as head coach. Also in July 2011, the infamous report came out attributing to the vice president of the Longhorn Network that the goal was to focus high school content on players committed or targeted by Texas, EVEN OUT OF STATE COMMITS such as Connor Brewer (he directly named a committed but not signed player) from Arizona. A&M files a complaint with the NCAA and several other schools sign on.
August 2011 - NCAA rules that "institution-based networks" are not allowed to broadcast high school content. ESPN tries to amend it to show "only highlights" and is told no again by the NCAA. A&M at this point has had enough and the board of regents gives Loftin approval to seek other conference homes.
September 2011 - Baylor President Ken Starr threatens to sue every member of the SEC for tortuous interference if A&M is accepted as a member. They then are given a cease and desist order by the State of Texas in trying to market a "Don't Mess with Texas Football" campaign. The "Perryman Report" is released detailing a horribly inaccurate projection of the lost revenue by the city of Waco if A&M leaves the conference. Texas is told no by the Big Ten, ACC, and PAC 12 due to their refusal to give up the Longhorn Network. Oklahoma is told no without Texas as well. DeLoss Dodds arrogantly proclaims that any school can replace A&M. Big 12 replaces A&M with TCU after A&M joins the SEC.
October 2011: The infamous meeting between DeLoss Dodds and Missouri's AD Mike Alden in which Dodds wants assurance that Alden "remembers his place". Shortly after that, Missouri begins the process to leave the Big 12. Missouri announces they will join the SEC. Big 12 replaces Missouri with West Virginia.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:08 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
No one cares.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:10 pm to Grovewater
Send A & M home, and bring in OU. The biggest no brainer OAT.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:11 pm to AUCE05
And DeLoss actually said "Any private school can replace A&M.."
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:17 pm to oman
Well, AM has a poor football tradition, and regional school. He wasn't far from the truth.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:17 pm to AUCE05
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AM has a poor football tradition,
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:19 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Correction, Scott and the PAC 12 told texass no because "it's leadership lacked integrity" and the PAC 12 required that of member institutions. This was after he found out Dodds had been lying to him about A&M
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:22 pm to hawgfaninc
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would trade mizzou for OU in a heartbeat
xinfinity...
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:46 pm to Grovewater
I guess OU in the west and Okie St in the East.
Or you could move OU, Okie State and Mizzou to the West and Auburn/Alabama to the East.
Or you could move OU, Okie State and Mizzou to the West and Auburn/Alabama to the East.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:51 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Send A & M home, and bring in OU. The biggest no brainer OAT.
Texas: 26,956,958
Oklahoma: 3,878,051
You do get THIS part, right?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:56 pm to finestfirst79
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Tennessee Jed
No, he doesn't math...
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:11 pm to Old Sarge
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No, he doesn't math...
If only he had more than 10 fingers...
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:24 pm to The Balinese Club
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Now, I know most of you are about to say that Texas isn't "southern" either
We're not. We're our own region...its called Texas. The only state worthy of its own power grid and the only one to have its own General Land office.
We're not the South. We're not Southern. We're Texan.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:34 pm to FishFearMe
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Tennessee doesn't even have the largest stadium in their own conference.
It is probably the biggest but their seats have to accommodate their fans.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:25 pm to FairhopeTider
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Maybe I'm alone but I have the opinion that at some point money takes a back seat to winning. The SEC is already a gauntlet. OU is a solid football program and adding them would only make things tougher. The extra few million a year wouldn't be worth it.
At some point, you have to realize this isn't Xbox and a college team can't just have an NFL-type schedule. Its funny when people go "Hell yeah! Let's add OU, Texas, Florida State, and Clemson!" Might as well add the Saints and the Falcons while we're at it.
Someone that actually gets it. Why in the hell do we want to make the conference harder. Not like we get 2-3 teams in the current playoffs. Yes lets make it more tougher by adding OU, VT, Clemson, GT, in other words schools that can recruit good. Sheesh people. There's a thing called playoffs that each team wants to get to.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:35 pm to PikeBishop
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Good article by Clay Travis today on conference expansion and the SEC conference network issue.
LINK
I don't usually put much stock in Clay Travis, but he has this one nailed down pretty well.
Even though the rivalries stink, Mizzou made a GREAT move getting out when they did.
The one thing he didn't comment on is if the cable model blows up and it goes to OTA with streaming, name brand schools like Oklahoma will be the plums of any further conference realignment because the priority will become conference content instead of conference footprint.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:38 pm to bayou2003
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more tougher
Come on man
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:48 pm to Grovewater
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In summary, Boren acknowledged that turning down the SEC in 2011 was a massive mistake, and he plainly stated that the Longhorn Network needed to be turned into a Big 12 Network, the Big 12 must expand, and they need a conference championship. He then goes on to state that if these issues are not addressed Oklahoma will look elsewhere.
Calling it now, in 5 years Oklahoma will be in the SEC. Boren basically just said the words "Frick Texas."
I'd love this. As much as I'd hate to see the OU/Texas game go away, Bama playing OU every year would be awesome.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:49 pm to Mizz-SEC
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I don't usually put much stock in Clay Travis, but he has this one nailed down pretty well.
Ditto. He's a little over the top at times, but he's Nostradamus when it comes to television revenues. If a la carte cable becomes reality (and he thinks it will), ESPN will take a huge dive, followed by the conference networks after their contracts expire. And then it makes more sense to pull in teams like historically successful OU from a very small population.
And that's why Aggies want NCST, UNC, Duke, UVA, VaTech, etc., if we must expand.
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