re: OU President David Boren puts Texas/Big12 on notice.

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It is widely understood, to this point, that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would be a package deal.

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Are Oklahoma and Oklahoma State really a package deal?

Serious question: Would any of y'all pay extra each month to watch The USC Trojan cable channel? I have nothing against USC. But I wouldn't have any interest in watching Haden and Helton discuss them 24/7. Who outside of California would?

I don't even get the Pac12 and Big10 networks right now from my local provider. I would rarely watch them if I did.

Exactly! But what ND does do is it makes an ACC network that much more valuable for all the sports not called football.

tu would bring the same value to a conference. However, that is impossible as long as the LHN exists. And ESPN sure as Hell isnt going to trash the LHN simply to pay an increase to the SECN with no way to make it up with higher carriage fees.

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Bama and USC would turn down the deal if they were offered it?

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I don't think there is any way that an all-Alabama station all the time national network would be a success. Some sort of in-state only thing run by the University showing all highlights, old games, secondary sports, etc? Sure. Maybe even regionally. Nationally? LOL, no frickin way.

The only school that could MAYBE do that is Notre Dame.

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That doesn't answer my question. With media changing so rapidly, Texas made a perfectly acceptable decision to try this out, and Alabama would have as well.

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Sure, if there was no harm to the conference as a whole and we were guaranteed a large check regardless of performance and it didn't screw anything else up for our department then sure.

But if the network made us money but destroyed our league and long term hurt us and our programs then no, I don't think we'd do it. I don't know if LHN will do that to Texas or not.

The original purpose of the Longhorn Network was as a recruiting tool taking advantage of the fact that the UIL operates out of Belmont. Dan Brown even stated as much. When the NCAA stepped in, the viability of the network diminished. To say otherwise is arrogantly dishonest...in other words sip-like.

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You have President from another University in your conference openly calling it toxic. It's setting the Big 12 Conference behind in revenue.

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Exactly. Long-term, if it breaks up the conference and hurts the brand and other revenue streams, then it is a net loss.

I don't know if it will or not, but it clearly has the potential to.

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Well, at least A&M hasn't diluted its diplomas enough so that Aggies don't know the difference between long term and short term. Congrats.

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Lolz.

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To who? Certainly not to Texas. To the Big12? We don't know the long term, and we don't know what changes they will make? To college football? How do we know the lessons learned from this won't create new media deals that aren't better for college football as a whole?

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We don't. Like I said, long-term, there are lots of potential pitfalls. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have done it. However, it clearly enraged their conference mates enough that 2 left and the other conference power is clearly still mad about it 3 years later.

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Not sure why would anyone give a shite other than to see how it plays out

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I don't care about it at all, it just seems to be the current discussion at hand so I am discussing it.

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Suddenly teams like OU, Clemson and FSU would be economically viable.

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Of those 3, Oklahoma would be the most viable

While Clay Travis is just now focusing on it, I made the point of content back in 2009 and 2010. The classic example is Notre Dame, who got both sides of the bread buttered.



Notre Dames football deal is for a few games and a few months. In this case the single school model works for them because it is limited to a single sport and a single quarter on the calendar. They sell those rights to NBC and NBC airs those games. Now suppose NBC had a deal like the LHN and had to fill a devoted channel with 24 hour year round live programming of Notre Dame sports. It would be a disaster of epic proportions.

Notre Dames conference deal is year round via ESPN. Now you can say the ACC has no ACCN but the reality is the ACCN has been there all along since the beginning of ESPN in the late 70's and early 80's. From that time forward ESPN has been "all in" with the ACC so an ACCN is a bit redundant. With the Irish now in the ESPN fold for all non football sports they get their "live content" mixed with the other ACC schools on a 24 year round cycle.



Now it would be my guess the Irish make more on the NBC deal than they make from conference membership in the ACC but being in the ACC allows non football national airtime for all the other Irish sports. However, the free exposure on ESPN on a daily and monthly basis is worth probably more than the money they give up in better exposure. Think of the SEC CBS contract not rising in value with TAMU and MU but being kept because of the non monetary exposure the SEC gets from CBS.

In case you have not followed college sports on ESPN outside of college football, Notre Dame is getting lots of love and exposure on both ESPN's family of networks AND their ESPN website. It seems like this has grown since realignment talk first started and has increased since Notre Dame parked their non football sports in the ACC.

While Oklahoma (the state) is much smaller than South Carolina (Clempson) or Florida (Free Shoes U) they do fit the SECN sports content better when viewed on a full year cycle for live programming. In addition it means new TV viewers instead of cannibalizing existing viewers in SC and FL. Even if the Taters or Crab Rapers never got SEC membership, they will still watch SECN because they want to watch the Cocks and Gators lose. Roughly 1/3 to 2/3 of Notre Dame football viewers are folks tuning in hoping the Irish lose.

Hogs would love a real border state rival that so far has not materialized with Missouri and Texas hate in Arkansas still seems stronger that the hate with TAMU. Oklahoma would fill this void for the Hogs and give the rest of us on tRant a breather. OU + MU = 2 Big 8 offset by UAF + TAMU = 2 SWC would balance the vortex of non charter SEC schools into the fold of SEC membership.

The best part of this would be no invite to conference wrecker Texas and little brother Oklahoma State. Red River Rivalry would now be SEC vs ??? and Bedlam would be SEC vs ?? as a western equivalent to the 4 ACC vs SEC games you have in the east. The SECN sports of football, volleyball, w gymnastics, m basketball, w basketball, baseball, and softball all fit Oklahoma's current college sports mix.