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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:12 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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You realize that Washington State's RB1 caught 86 passes?
Which has zero to do with what I said and what some of your brethren have been on here claiming.
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:16 am to Big4Dawg
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He said it takes 6 days to install offense
I have always liked the pirate and am thrilled he is in the SEC.
But I would be worried about that defense. It seems like they will practicing against a very different O than they will face each week.
What target score (say 40 or more points) do you think the team will need to be able to reach to stay competitive?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:29 am to higgs_boson
quote:To me, that always seemed to be the story with Leach. As prolific as his offense was at Tech, going up against that all the time in practice made his defense less physical, and they had some games where they would really get run over as a consequence.
I have always liked the pirate and am thrilled he is in the SEC.
But I would be worried about that defense. It seems like they will practicing against a very different O than they will face each week.
What target score (say 40 or more points) do you think the team will need to be able to reach to stay competitive?
I didn't follow him as closely at Washington State, but his defense did seem to be a little improved, at times.
It will certainly be interesting to see how he adapts to the SEC. He had an OK first season in Lubbock with Kliff Kingsbury as his QB, and replacing an old defensive coach (Spike Dykes) who left him a servicable defense. They didn't light up the scoreboard the way they would in subsequent years, but they also probably played better defense than you saw later in his tenure. They went 7-6, losing to OU, Texas, A&M, Nebraksa, and K State (not a pushover schedule, at the time) during the regular season, and bowl loss to East Carolina (oof).
I've got Tech fans in my family, and their feelings were that while Leach sometimes punched above his weight, they also lost some games they had no business losing, and the pratfalls against top competition began to wear a little bit as time went on.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:53 am to twk
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I've got Tech fans in my family, and their feelings were that while Leach sometimes punched above his weight, they also lost some games they had no business losing, and the pratfalls against top competition began to wear a little bit as time went on.
Assuming that the Tech fans in your family like winning football games, I bet that they wish the administration never ran Leach out. Cause Leach was there at Tech for 10 years and had 10 years of a winning 7 games or more (and 8 years in a row of winning 8 or more). In the 10 years since the administration gave him the boot Tech has won 7 games just 4 times, and one of those was Tuberville just walking into the team that Leach had won 9 games with the previous season.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:25 am to Elleshoe
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State has 2 auto wins:
New Mexico
Alabama A&M
State has 2 likely wins:
Arkansas
Tulane
State has 4 toss ups:
NC State
Kentucky
Missouri
Ole Miss
Guarantee losses:
Alabama
A&M
LSU
Auburn
6 wins is pushing it for State
Throw this out. It doesn’t work this way for Leach.
Not only his system but his own way of doing things means that he will beat someone he absolutely had no business doing so and also blow it against someone as well.
It may be a 6-6 season but every game is wide open.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:45 pm to Hailstate15
Real question, has he ever faced defenses like the SEC and far superior talent by majority of conference?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:50 pm to Che Boludo
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A complete overhaul of the scheme, calls/terminology, plays, etc and no spring practice to implement/introduce it.
No traditional summer workouts.
And, an undetermined look for what fall camp will look like.
I'd manage expectations regardless of talent level.
He plays sandlot football. Draw up plays in the dirt on the sideline. Adjust to the ball. Fast break on 3. Let’s go!!!!
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:59 pm to pbro62
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Real question, has he ever faced defenses like the SEC and far superior talent by majority of conference?
Yes, he has faced far superior talent by the majority of the conference. Wazzu was ranked at or near the bottom of the Pac 12 in terms of recruiting rankings for pretty much Leach's entire stay.
As far as defenses, he hasn't faced anywhere near the caliber of defenses that he'll face in the SEC, but the SEC hasn't really seen the Air Raid either, so who it'll be fun to see how it goes. That's one of the reasons I was excited by Miss State hiring Leach. I mean, look what happened when LSU discovered that you don't have to run it up the gut the majority of the game?
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:07 pm to megiddo
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I mean, look what happened when LSU discovered that you don't have to run it up the gut the majority of the game?
LSU ran the ball 300 times more than Washington State last year.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:12 pm to TheCheshireHog
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LSU ran the ball 300 times more than Washington State last year.
And LSU passed the ball 150 times more than they did in 2018, and 200 times more than they did in 2017.
Surely you know that a lot of those runs were after LSU had the game well in hand, right?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:39 pm to Hailstate15
I guess it depends on your definition of “fun”.
His offenses are always “fun” to watch.
IF
You don’t care about getting a W.
His offenses are always “fun” to watch.
IF
You don’t care about getting a W.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:51 pm to NoGeaux
I mean Leach owns the record for most wins in a season at both Tech (tied with Weaver and Carlen with 11 wins) and Wazzu (their only 11 win season), so I think you're just a little bit off the mark. There's hardly any coaches that could do what he has done at those schools.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:33 pm to GhostofJackson
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Yeah the Leach offense is literally 7 plays and none of them are running.
You're saying there are no running plays in Leach's playbook? That's not true.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:36 pm to Elleshoe
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Dude. You have a QB that doesn’t fit the Leach system
Dude, keep your mouth shut if you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
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and a coach that has a system that doesn’t fit in the SEC
Who in their right mind thought LSU would have as much success with their passing system as they did last season? This is TBD.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:38 pm to bopper50
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CEH was a better back than Hill.
No one argued otherwise. Your point?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:56 pm to El Mattadorr
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You're saying there are no running plays in Leach's playbook? That's not true.
Run plays are audibles by the QB. They look at the defense and see how many are in the box and can audible to a run play if they want. There isn't a 100% running play in Leach's playbook.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:00 pm to megiddo
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Run plays are audibles by the QB. They look at the defense and see how many are in the box and can audible to a run play if they want. There isn't a 100% running play in Leach's playbook.
Hmm. That wasn't my understanding of his offense as described in this book (which is a fascinating read if you ever have time).
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:24 pm to Hailstate15
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This could pan out to be a fun season if they get to practice together.
If I’m an MSU fan, this season is a blast!
Pirate could steal one or three close ones to cap a 7-6 season.
MSU, at 26-28 Points a game offense, needs to find 2 more TDs a game Offense to hit 40 ppg to field a consistent winner in the future.
MSU, at 31 Points a game scoring defense needs to cut out a TD scoring a game to get where they want. Looks like a 2-3 yr Project. 67 plays a game won’t fly with the Pirate, and they can expect hurry up with 75+ plays a game in 2020
Expecting lotsa close winnable games in 2020 for MSU! Mark It!
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