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re: Ole Miss AD Keith Carter confirms they're trying to bring 5th year players in

Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Now there are rules that the SEC will try to penalize you if you play a player that was ruled ineligible and the courts said otherwise.



Yep.


They should apply to ALL players that are in that situation.


Given this rule is so quick to be made and passed should be quick to addend
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:20 pm to
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He wants to do it within the framework of the rules


LINK

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I have been in communication daily with the SEC to make sure we are complying with the SEC rules


I am curious. Is it different when Lane says it, or does it only count when someone else from another school says it? Maybe it really is "Just different" at LSU
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm to
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5 for 5 specifically does not apply to the 2022 class.


Not really the point I was trying to make in that post. The point is/was, it not the time a player has played, it's the Pro back to college that has everyone stirred up.
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm to
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What folks are opposed to are players that signed contracts with pro team, players that practiced with pro teams and players that played pre-season games with pro teams coming back to college for a 5th year...



Brother, most of these guys got paid more in college than they did for their cup of coffee in the NFL. Disqualifying players because of who is paying them is a paper thin defense.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm to
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He wants to do it within the framework of the rules.
these rules you speak of, what are they? Are they decided?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38857 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:21 pm to
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You can speculate, but you cannot say that definitively. The NCAA INTENTIONALLY didn't make the 5-for-5 rule retroactive. So the 2022 class had already exhausted its eligibility under the old 4-for-5 rules in 2025-26, and the NCAA's transition rule explicitly says those athletes get no additional eligibility. The new rule applies to the appropriate incoming/current classes, not retroactively to everyone who had already finished. So “they wouldn't have done any of that if they knew they were eligible” is backwards. They weren't eligible under the rules in effect when they made those decisions, and the NCAA explicitly decided the new 5-for-5 rules would not apply to them




So you agree the players Keith Carter is in negotiations with are ineligible.




Thanks.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:22 pm to
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Brother, most of these guys got paid more in college than they did for their cup of coffee in the NFL. Disqualifying players because of who is paying them is a paper thin defense.


The issue isn't who paid them more. It's whether they crossed the NCAA's line into professional football. The NCAA has always treated participation in professional leagues differently from NIL compensation. You can argue that distinction is outdated, but “they made more in college” doesn't make the distinction disappear.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38857 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:22 pm to
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Not really the point I was trying to make in that post



They are ineligible.



He is knowingly negotiating with ineligible players.




He is a threat to the league, the game and this country.
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1844 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:23 pm to
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these rules you speak of, what are they? Are they decided?



I want to know which players are currently on LSU's roster that LSU would be punished for
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38857 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:24 pm to
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It's whether they crossed the NCAA's line into professional football



NFL minicamps clearly cross the NCAAs line.



Traditionally even having an agent crossed that line


Getting too old crossed another NCAA line.





I’m all for banning all ineligible players
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:27 pm to
I think Ole Miss fans have said several times that we were looking at bringing in an OL. Not breaking news.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35409 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:28 pm to
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So you agree the players Keith Carter is in negotiations with are ineligible.


Reading is hard isn't it?

quote:

To me, there are some fifth-years that, through whatever mechanism, whether it’s a TRO or an injunction, have become eligible, but they never signed a pro contract,”


And it never said that they we "in negotiations with them. It said they would consider talking to them IF they because eligible. Is that too difficult to understand?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35409 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:29 pm to
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They are ineligible.

He is knowingly negotiating with ineligible players.


Not at all. Read what he ACTUCALLY said.

quote:

To me, there are some fifth-years that, through whatever mechanism, whether it’s a TRO or an injunction, have become eligible, but they never signed a pro contract,”


Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
27656 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:31 pm to
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He wants to do it within the framework of the rules.


What rules?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38857 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:31 pm to
A poor understanding of what an injunction is doesn’t make it any different. They are ineligible by the ncaa but the ncaa cannot act on it.

An injunction prevents a party from taking action while litigation is ongoing.

This is what will be granted to multiple players this week and some players this past March.



This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
74249 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:32 pm to
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He wants to do it within the framework of the rules.


Lane has said the same.

Somehow that doesn't matter here.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
67139 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Lane has said the same.


"There's a lot of parts of this I don't like. I don't think professionals should come back to college sports and college football. Do I believe NFL players should come back to college? No.

However, I will operate at the highest level within the rules to give LSU the most competitive advantage as possible. As are many other major programs. When the rules and laws change, we will operate at the highest level at that time within the rules."
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32328 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:38 pm to
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He wants to do it within the framework of the rules.
quote:

Lane has said the same.

Somehow that doesn't matter here.
I've never said Lane has stated anything differently. Lane will abide by the ncaa/sec rules, the LSU Administration will see to that.
Posted by LSU4Life2021
Member since Dec 2021
1156 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 4:39 pm to
Typical hypocritical ole miss
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