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re: #notncaaproperty...what a bunch of pansies

Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:27 am to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31203 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:27 am to
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But they just don't see or understand the value of what the ARE getting.

They'll understand what they ARE getting when schools require they meet the same entrance standards as other students. Make them meet the ACT/GPA threshold and watch what happens to sports teams.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:29 am to
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Would college sports really be enjoyable knowing the kids are making millions of dollars, and pulling up to the games in Rolls Royces?

Does the kids driving up in Honda Civics make it more enjoyable? Would you not be entertained by a kid who's parents make millions and they bought him a Rolls Royce?
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2974 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:32 am to
The G-League has definitely opened options, yes. I look forward to more players taking advantage of this in the coming years, to allow kids to develop in a system that pays them what their worth. We haven't seen a lot of it yet, because it is unproven, but hopefully Kuminga will be a trailblazer.

Also, you keep talking about endorsements. Do you have any evidence that guys who don't play college ball struggle to get endorsements? I sure don't remember Kobe Bryant or LeBron James struggling to get endorsements early in their career. Maybe an older guy can speak for Moses Malone, but he had the misfortune of having to go play in the ABA.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2965 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:33 am to
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They will have to sacrifice endorsements though given the average fan won’t know them
Right now, yes I would say Cade is getting a little more exposure. But that trend is changing pretty rapidly. These kids are promoted through social media like crazy starting at the AAU level. The need for college exposure to build a brand is quickly dwindling. B-ball fans know who these kids are. More and more talented kids will forgo college. Now, that could change if the NCAA actually lets these kids make some real money.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6630 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:33 am to
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Well my degree I received from LSU has been worth well over 100k
You don’t even need a degree to work at Target
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
23495 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:33 am to
How do so many people have such a strong opinion on this that has never played sports in college? It's not a cakewalk. My days were tied up from 5:30 in the morning to 9 at night during fall and spring semesters. I'd have a problem too if my name was being plastered everywhere promoting games and whatever else.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3601 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:38 am to
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The tricky part is what stops a Coach from telling a booster to give a Local Car Dealership $500,000 to give to a kid for shooting 1 commercial for said dealership if he commits to your school?


You think many places are going to be throwing around $500,000 left and right to all the top recruits?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:38 am to
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The G-League has definitely opened options, yes.


so you admit to being incredibly disingenuous

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I look forward to more players taking advantage of this in the coming years, to allow kids to develop in a system that pays them what their worth.



So if said option exists and they choose not to take it or are not skilled enough to take it then they are being paid what they are worth/what they chose
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62399 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:39 am to
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aka things that are in the school's best interest to keep them in the game and in position to win games.
Those things also cost a frickton of money on a yearly basis. The athletes pay none of it.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3601 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:40 am to
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However, these scholarship students don't have some arbitrary cap on making money outside of school. They can use their skills to make money by being a tutor, interning in the summer, etc.


Ding ding ding. Sally on a full ride academic scholarship can offer tutoring lessons, etc. Jimmy on a full music scholarship can teach private lessons while advertising he's in the Symphonic Band at State U.

A tennis player cannot teach lessons and make money from it simply because the NCAA says they can't.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:41 am to
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Those things also cost a frickton of money on a yearly basis. The athletes pay none of it

Ok?
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2974 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:44 am to
Didn't you read where I said that the G-League is unproven as a developmental league, and rational actors typically won't risk their careers in a new operation? Kuminga took a leap, hopefully his success will lead to others doing the same.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62399 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:44 am to
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Ok?
So they're getting compensated, numb nuts. Name a group of students more provided for and catered to on college campuses than athletes.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:47 am to
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Name a group of students more provided for and catered to on college campuses than athletes.

Name a group of students that have more physical demands placed on them.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:49 am to
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rational actors typically won't risk their careers



so you agree that NCAA athletics is an investment


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Kuminga took a leap,

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G-League is unproven as a developmental league


So getting paid $500k to play in an NBA sanctioned developmental league may result in less net benefit than the total package of an "uncompensated" NCAA athlete.

I think you have successfully made my point.

Thanks!

We are done here guys close up shop.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62399 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:49 am to
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Name a group of students that have more physical demands placed on them.
Literally by choice of profession. Stop acting like they're forced into this. This victim-claiming for already privileged people is cringe.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:50 am to
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A tennis player cannot teach lessons and make money from it simply because the NCAA says they can't.



Thats pretty sad of you to think that the only skill athletes have to offer is to teach lessons.

Also its hilarious if you dont think programs have contacts lined up to work at offices, car dealerships etc that these kids would never have the connections to do otherwise
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10342 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:51 am to
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We can all bitch day and night about how unfair it is, and what a crock the NCAA is, but you take away the amateurism in college sports, and I think you'd find that it loses its soul, and the entire reason why we love college sports to begin with.


Yes. It's called professional sports. There's an avenue for that.

It's also a reason you don't see this bullshite in college baseball. Think about why that's different..
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28542 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:53 am to
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It's also a reason you don't see this bullshite in college baseball. Think about why that's different..


Because they can go straight from HS and it doesn't generate the kind of revenue that basketball and football produce?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:56 am to
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Thats pretty sad of you to think that the only skill athletes have to offer is to teach lessons.


That's not at all what he's saying.
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