re: Non-SEC Fans Melting HARD

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FSU fans seem even more pissed.

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No, not even close. At least FSU will still make the playoffs, unlike the cock blocked Big 12. Some excerpts:

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$#@!ing miss st has 4 worthless out of conference wins over S. Miss, South Alabama, UAB (barely), and UT Martin whatever the $#@! that is and people talk about Baylor's out of conference.

how the $#@! does ohio state pass baylor? who have they beaten? a 2 loss mich st team, that's all, and they lose to a terrible va tech team. they too played 4 out of conference games, navy, kent st. va tech (their loss), and cinci.

$#@! this committee they are no better than retarded media biased $#@!s that vote on reputation

if a big x team makes it over a big xii team, texas should secede and say $#@! it and we'll have a national championship of the Republic of Texas. Of course Oklahoma can't live without Texas and we need some of their oil and gas so they come along too.

it's just so $#@!ing stupid. the committee is so sec biased, the big 12 is without a true voice, we're $#@!ed and we need to say $#@! you to espn and the committee and decide as a conference that if we don't get a team in this year, then we're not participating in the future. tcu or baylor would beat miss st by 30, their secondary is $#@!, what $#@!ing joke this entire thing is.

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1a bull$#@! is Miss St being in the Top 6. They should be below FSU, Bama, Oregon, TCU, Baylor, tOSU. Best wins were LSU, Auburn, and aggy, who are all sucking serious arse right now. Only way they should be in is if FSU has 2 losses AND loses the ACC, Oregon loses the PAC, and TCU loses. Or if Bama loses and they can win the SEC. That's it. $#@! them. 5 wins over P5 schools. Horse. $#@!.

1b bull$#@! is FSU not being #1. Only P5 undefeated. 9 wins this year against P5 competition. Defending national champs. 26 in a row. 21 of those 26 against P5 competition. They should be able to lose one, win the ACC, and still be in.

Bama in? Ok. Oregon in? Ok. I'm good with them being 2 & 3. #4? $#@!, I don't know, unfortunately, I think it's gotta be Baylor/tOSU at #4/#5 (tossup?) after TCU $#@! the bed against KU. Yeah, the frogs won, but that was a Grade A bedshitting right there. #6 for them, I think, but definitely above Miss $#@!ing St.

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In other words, the game means whatever we want it to. Alabama gets extra credit for a "dominating win," but MSU somehow gets extra credit for keeping the same game close. It seems like it can only be one or the other. Also, last week we were all about top 25 wins, but this week it's just "quality wins" that matter. Conveniently, a quality win seems to be whatever win the committee determines to be quality.

It might be better for Long to just stop giving these interviews. It seems like he just confuses the issue every time. I'm hoping he's just saying whatever comes to the top of his head to explain this stuff and this is not actually their rationale.

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To be honest, this is exactly what we should expect when the chairman and spokesman for the SEC committee is an SEC flunky. He is tacitly admitting that he values the SEC above all others. Their wins are "quality wins" and their losses are "quality losses" simply because they are SEC opponents, regardless of how bad the teams actually are and how over rated they are. The rankings are as much of a sham as before when the SEC is always so over represented.

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This is is about justifying t-shirt schools with big fan bases being in the final 4. More viewers = more $$$.

Does anyone really think that the college football polit bureau gives a rip about a small private school on the bubble (either Baylor or tcu) of the four teams? If there's a big t-shirt fan school on the bubble, there will be hell to pay; thus, dumba$$ justifications. It's all about $$$.

Oh, and Luck being the only Big12 rep on the committee is a fulking joke. He's there to politic for a conference commissioner job.

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My favorite is this one of a Baylor fan who, surprised surprised, thinks they should sue:

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At this point, I'd be for suing ...don't we have anti trust laws or something like that that prevent this stuff? The nation needs to DEMAND this system be scrapped and that the results on the field matter instead of the ratings ESecPN can get from desired pairings. This system must be changed - it is the most unAmerican thing I've ever seen in sports. Disgusting.

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Look, I couldn't care less about whether TCU or Baylor make the playoffs, but there is definitely some bias going on.

Jeff Long discussing the rankings.

Regarding Alabama
"with what we considered a decisive win over Mississippi State"

Regarding Mississippi State
"They've diminished a little bit, but they're still quality wins when you look at LSU and Texas A&M. But the thing about Mississippi State is, that game with Alabama -- while we would say Alabama controlled that game and won -- it did end up a five-point game and you never felt like Mississippi State was out of that game. So, while Alabama controlled it, Mississippi State was within striking distance in that game."



Did they even watch the game? Mississippi State scored a garbage TD at the end of the game to put them within 5. They never threatened to take the lead and never even had a drive that could have given them the lead. They weren't in "striking distance." How can the win have been "decisive" while "you never felt like Mississippi State was out of the game?" That doesn't make any sense. Does anyone here claim, as Jeff Long does, that LSU and A&M are quality wins? I keep hearing about other teams bad non conference schedule, but MSU has played Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama and the University of Tennessee Martin.

According to the committee's own rankings:

Mississippi State has beaten #14 and THAT IS IT.
TCU has beaten #12, #21, and #25
Baylor has beaten #5 and #21

Just doesn't add up.

MSU is #4 per the AP poll, the Coaches poll, the Playoff Committee, a mock BCS, and a consensus of computer ratings.

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FSU fans seem even more pissed.

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Why?

FSU would be lucky to be 8-2 in the SEC East right now.

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My favorite is when they say that the reason the SEC wins bowl games because teams have to go down South and play in brutal 65F Florida weather

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That excuse is basically just "We're pussies."

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And honestly, what does it matter? As long as they're in the final 4 (which they obviously will be if they win out) they should have nothing to complain about.

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here is the argument, they are the defending champs and still undefeated

why should they have to travel to Pasadena instead of NOLA?

Being No 1 seed vs 2nd or 3rd means a lot to their fan base in terms of the level and expense of travel to attend the game

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MSU is #4 per the AP poll, the Coaches poll, the Playoff Committee, a mock BCS, and a consensus of computer ratings.

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And for good reason. All you have to do is watch State play to know they're better than Baylor/TCU.

That said, they're not going to make the playoff. When the conference title games are played (or not for the Big 12) they'll get jumped by Ohio State or one of the Big 12 teams.

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According to the committee's own rankings:

Mississippi State has beaten #14 and THAT IS IT.
TCU has beaten #12 (Kansas State), #21 (Oklahoma), and #25 (Minnesota)
Baylor has beaten #5 (TCU) and #21 (Oklahoma)

Just doesn't add up.

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Sure it does
State won @ Tiger Stadium @ Night - TCU and Baylor could not accomplish this
State lost @ BDS by 5 measly points - TCU and Baylor could not accomplish this

The little bears and little frogs think it is a big deal to beat another B12 team in front of say 50,000 B12 fans. It is all together different to play in front of 100,000 + SEC fans who are some of the loudest and craziest fans in the whole darned country.

Kansas State is probably the best team in the B12 this year and they had a bad day against TCU. Sooners should not be in the Top 25 but voters seem determined to have at least Sooners or Horns in the Top 25. Chokelahoma is certainly not the 2nd best 3 loss team in the nation and Minnesota the 6th best 3 loss team. Neither should be ranked at all.

Take out Chokelahoma and the Goofers and it looks like this :
TCU has beaten #12 (Kansas State)
Baylor has beaten #5 (TCU)

Neither of these candy arse schools will have to play that 13th game against the best their conference has to offer.

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I'm not sure why Kanell has such a hard on for the SEC, but it goes deeper than just a shtick. He argues passionately against anything SEC....talking about a little brother syndrome!

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As Reed lochamy said about Kanell's down rating of the SEC, how can you question the integrity of an FSU QB? An you all know that both Lochamy brothers is always 100% serious.

If they just wait, there will likely be nothing to melt over. Unless 2 of the champs from the PAC, Big 10, and Big 12, I firmly believe the SEC will only get one team in.
But by releasing ranking every week, this is exactly what the committee wants.