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re: Non Arkansas and Mizzou fans, Is this a rivalry?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:58 am to Golfer1
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:58 am to Golfer1
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Good luck getting to 5 wins this year
You get 1 win inside of a decade and you get all cocky? You're returning to earth this season. Mizzou will most certainly be putting you in your place.
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:59 am to UKWildcats
I don't see it as a fit as both schools lack history with each other and don't have a general strong dislike for each other. It is forced because Arkansas and Missouri don't have any natural rivals in the SEC. Both left those rivals behind to join the SEC.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:02 am to Golfer1
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Golfer1
This mother fricker lives to hate Mizzou.
Funny to see him talk about how it isn’t a rivalry when he lives and breathes Mizzou in his brain.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:03 am to dchog
I’ve got a dozen Hog buddies. You need to let them know it’s not a rivalry.
What you are talking about with Texas is swinging up. Of course your fanbase will be more excited about playing and beating a program/university that’s higher up that you area they’ll get fired up because if you win then it feels like you are ascending. Mizzou/Arkansas are peers. When we beat you we get no more street cred. It’s fun, but it doesn’t make us look any better. The same for you all. Now that OU is coming in we do have a history with them. They are superior, but 1 win is worth 2 losses to the fanbase. That doesn’t make us a rivalry with them.
Watch this 6 minute clip to see what Mizzou was and can be: LINK
We will never be that to you nor you to us. Likewise LSU is superior to you, same thing.
What you are talking about with Texas is swinging up. Of course your fanbase will be more excited about playing and beating a program/university that’s higher up that you area they’ll get fired up because if you win then it feels like you are ascending. Mizzou/Arkansas are peers. When we beat you we get no more street cred. It’s fun, but it doesn’t make us look any better. The same for you all. Now that OU is coming in we do have a history with them. They are superior, but 1 win is worth 2 losses to the fanbase. That doesn’t make us a rivalry with them.
Watch this 6 minute clip to see what Mizzou was and can be: LINK
We will never be that to you nor you to us. Likewise LSU is superior to you, same thing.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:08 am to RamboMizzou
Well neither team will compete for football titles moving forward so you might as well be
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:16 am to Tiger_Claw
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Oh yea. He 100% hates Mizzou -- any time there is a Mizzou thread or especially Arkansas / Mizzou post, he is all up in that. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of Python script to notify him when a post goes up.
That's what is strange to me about this whole Mizzou-Arkansas deal. I kind of like Arkansas, I have family down there who are alums and Fayetteville is great. I am rooting for it to turn into a lighthearted rivalry, which I do think it eventually will.
But you talk to the Arkansas folks, and they oddly sort of dismiss Mizzou or look down their nose at us. Best I can tell, they hate losing to us and feel like we've encroached on their territory. Maybe we would feel the same way if the SEC had collapsed and Arkansas joined the Big 12?
It is funny to me that Arkansas fans act like Mizzou has wrecked all these 'historic' rivalries they had, but they've only been in the conference since '92. Their historic rivals are in Texas, and they bailed on those programs (understandably) years ago.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:18 am to bamabaseballsec
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Well neither team will compete for football titles moving forward so you might as well be
Moving forward? Neither program has really been competing for titles in living memory. Man, it's got to be easy to be a Bama fan.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:25 am to Tiger_Claw
I tried caring about the Black Friday game, but it didn’t stick. Mizzou is in no man’s land in terms of getting up for someone. That’s worse than being mediocre, but that’s the price you pay when you throw away decades of regional rivalries for some coin.
maybe that will change when OU and Texas come along….assuming Sankey doesn’t kick us out first.
maybe that will change when OU and Texas come along….assuming Sankey doesn’t kick us out first.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:25 am to BreakawayZou83
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It is funny to me that Arkansas fans act like Mizzou has wrecked all these 'historic' rivalries they had, but they've only been in the conference since '92.
Our series with both LSU and Ole Miss predates the SEC. We’ve played them 68 and 67 times respectively. Hence the reason we jumped in to immediate disdain for both those programs once we joined. We barely played Mizzou in anything outside of basketball prior to you joining so yes it was significantly different to be shifted to playing you as our designated rival instead of one of them or A&M.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:37 am to BurgTiger
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Watch this 6 minute clip to see what Mizzou was and can be: LINK
Was at that game. What a day! Gameday broadcasts from the columns and Mizzou downs #1 OU. I'm sure I stood the entire time from the 86-yard McGaffie opening kickoff TD to the final gun. What a game!
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:41 am to BurgTiger
Then you need to convince thousands upon thousands of Arkansas fans that it is a rivalry especially older fans who still remember the SWC days and long for some of those teams to get back on the schedule.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:43 am to TheCheshireHog
The series with Ole Miss in the early 60s was so heated that both programs refused to play each other for 20 years. It was more intense for a short time than with Texas.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:47 am to RamboMizzou
It’s a natural rivalry in that if you pair up the new West division teams, you have:
OU-Texas: Red River Shootout
LSU-A&M: Battle on the Bayou
Ole Miss-Miss St: Egg Bowl
Arky-Mizzou: Ozarks Family Feud?
But the great thing about the SEC is that most teams have more than one rival. Georgia play the Cocktail Party every year but also hates Auburn and Tennessee, and, to a lesser extent, South Carolina. Mizzou has ties to OU and desperately needs annual games with UT and A&M to reopen the Texas recruiting pipeline, which is vital for them to be relevant. Arky hates Texas and A&M, but could develop a nice rivalry with OU, too. So everyone has multiple “big games” to get up for throughout the year.
I think that’s a big part of OU and Texas leaving the Big XII—after the shootout (and possibly Bedlam or a rematch) there wasn’t really anything to get up for. Now there will be big games almost every weekend. Which means more eyeballs and more TV $$$. It’s all about marketing your product. All these NIL deals are going to want exposure in order to have return on investment. A little Mizzou-Arky hatefest will benefit both schools.
OU-Texas: Red River Shootout
LSU-A&M: Battle on the Bayou
Ole Miss-Miss St: Egg Bowl
Arky-Mizzou: Ozarks Family Feud?
But the great thing about the SEC is that most teams have more than one rival. Georgia play the Cocktail Party every year but also hates Auburn and Tennessee, and, to a lesser extent, South Carolina. Mizzou has ties to OU and desperately needs annual games with UT and A&M to reopen the Texas recruiting pipeline, which is vital for them to be relevant. Arky hates Texas and A&M, but could develop a nice rivalry with OU, too. So everyone has multiple “big games” to get up for throughout the year.
I think that’s a big part of OU and Texas leaving the Big XII—after the shootout (and possibly Bedlam or a rematch) there wasn’t really anything to get up for. Now there will be big games almost every weekend. Which means more eyeballs and more TV $$$. It’s all about marketing your product. All these NIL deals are going to want exposure in order to have return on investment. A little Mizzou-Arky hatefest will benefit both schools.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:48 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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It’s kinda like the mizzou-Kansas rivalry. No one gives a shite
For not giving a shite a lot of people tuned into the 2007 MU-KU game. In fact, it was the most watched regular season game that year and at the time the 7th ranked ALL-TIME regular season game in terms of viewership.
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Also at the time College Gameday's #1 most watched broadcast
Missouri/Kansas Gameday most viewed ever.
Step outside your small bubble and learn something larger about college sports.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:48 am to dchog
Arkansas views Mizzou as a rival about the same as LSU or Texas view Arkansas as a rival.
That's the best way I can explain it to a non-Arkansas fan.
That's the best way I can explain it to a non-Arkansas fan.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:54 am to CelticTiger
The Kansas/Missouri rivalry to me is the most intense of all the rivalries and to me the most interesting as it goes way back.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:55 am to McMillan
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6-5-0
No surprise you choose to ignore them, and MU has only had three non bowl seasons since joining the league. For a program of their caliber, that’s pretty good.
I wasn't throwing shade. I'm just saying I never even think about them. It doesn't feel like they're in the conference at all.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:57 am to jonnyanony
Also we're 5-5 since you joined.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:58 am to HogPharmer
The Arkansas and Texas series from the 60s to the 80s was I may I have lost count had 12 games decided by seven points or less.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:59 am to HogPharmer
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Arkansas views Mizzou as a rival about the same as LSU or Texas view Arkansas as a rival.
That's the best way I can explain it to a non-Arkansas fan.
Nah, that's a bullshite comparison. But it is reflective of the unwarranted arrogance Arkansas fans often display toward Mizzou.
The LSU-Arkansas series is 42-23 in favor of LSU. They dominate you. It's a one-sided rivalry.
The Texas-Arkansas series is 56-23 in favor of Texas. They also dominate you. It's again, a one-sided rivalry.
The Mizzou-Arkansas series is at 9-4 in favor of Mizzou.
A better comparison would be Texas and LSU view Arkansas the way Oklahoma views Mizzou. I have some news for ya though: Mizzou and Arkansas are pretty similarly situated programs.
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