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re: No black HC in SEC - problem?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:08 pm to blzr
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:08 pm to blzr
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I member when racists wanted Auburn to hire Turner Gill only because he was black
worse than that was when we hired Spurrier, folks were upset we didnt interview a black coach...like Holtz got spurrier to come to us. you dont interview anyone else.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:10 pm to Arzrbkfan
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The bigger problem is there are no female cheerleaders at atm and that's a major problem.
Is that for real? If so that is the most fricked up repression I have ever heard. Who wants to watch a bunch of dudes prancing around on the sidelines?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:16 pm to MJackson
11% of the population is black you dick.
Take out women - unless you’re gonna try that one
Take out Blind
Take out mentally handicapped/retarded or a handicap that would preclude a person from the rigors of coaching.
Take out uneducated that wouldn’t want to coach.
Take out jailed/incarcerated.
Take out those not interested in sports/,coaching.
Take out unqualified to coach at DI/SEC level
Among other factors not listed, what number or percentage do I have vs the 67% I’m sure you’re comparing it to?
It is gonna be a ridiculously low number for blacks, because STATISTICALLY facts are just facts.
So GTFO with the political bullshite.
Take out women - unless you’re gonna try that one
Take out Blind
Take out mentally handicapped/retarded or a handicap that would preclude a person from the rigors of coaching.
Take out uneducated that wouldn’t want to coach.
Take out jailed/incarcerated.
Take out those not interested in sports/,coaching.
Take out unqualified to coach at DI/SEC level
Among other factors not listed, what number or percentage do I have vs the 67% I’m sure you’re comparing it to?
It is gonna be a ridiculously low number for blacks, because STATISTICALLY facts are just facts.
So GTFO with the political bullshite.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:01 pm to YStar
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Do you realize how dumb this sounds when looking at how bad some of the coaches in the SEC have been (currently are)?
Who has currently been bad that has not been recently hired?
1. Saban - Not going till he’s ready.
2. Smart - Possibly the 2nd best coach in the SEC.
3. Jimbo - Buyout to high to just simply fire right now.
4. Stoops - 2nd best coach in Kentucky history.
5. Hueple - offensive Guru that had top 10 offense in the country. Won 7 games in his 1st year which is as many games Saban won his 1st year at bama.
6. Kiffin - considered the best play caller in the SEC, and took Ole Miss to top 10 ranking last year.
7. Beamer - 2nd year coach, still to early to tell if he gonna have success.
8. Lee - James Franklin is only coach that can win at Vandy.
9. Drink - 2nd year. But most likely will be the next coach fired in the SEC.
10. Leach - HC with winning record. And has best Pres conference in league.
11. Napier - one of the top Group 5 coaches last year. Gonna take a few years to turn program around.
12. Kelly - Has losing record against SEC while at Notre Damn. But Still has a winning record as HC and considered a really good coach still. Only time till tell if he’s able to win in the SEC.
13. Pittman - Took over an Arkansas team that won 1 conference game in the 3 years prior to his arrival. What he has done at Arkansas is remarkable in such quick time.
14. Harsin - Should have beat Bama in his 1st year in Iron Bowl. He and Missouri coach are competing who will be fired next. No coach wants to go to Auburn with the way they have treated him and ran the AD out of town.
The last 3 head coach’s in the SEC that was black, only 1 of them is still currently a head coach (James Franklin).
Kevin Sumlin - 25-23 SEC Record
Derek Mason - 10-46 SEC Record
James Franklin - 11-13 SEC Record
Being Black should not be a qualification to being a coach. Theirs nothing racist about a black coach that isn’t a good coach. Now there are some good black coaches in College and Pros. But just because your black shouldn’t get you a job solely based on race. If James Franklin would have stayed he would still be the coach at Vandy or some other SEC school. If Sumlin would have won more he would still be at aTm.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:52 pm to VolNavy98
And each team shall have a white running back.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:41 pm to The Boat
Who cares, I’m over discussing this BS. I’m all for more black HCs in the game, but they have to be deserving to become HCs. Don’t give anything anyone because they color of their skin. This coming from a Hispanic man.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:16 pm to johnnydrama
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The head of the whole fricking school is black so I think we're covered.
Tate is doing work too.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:25 am to MJackson
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sylvester croom (former HC of miss st) is saying that it's a problem that there's no black HC in the SEC
I'll never understand these kinds of arguments. If it is proven that promising HCs are being passed over because of color, then ok. It is a problem.
Is it a problem that 95% of the NBA represents 10% of the population? No. Because they are the best players of that sport. Should we force the NBA to "level" the playing field and reflect the population? I don't think anybody wants to see that.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:36 am to TNTigerman
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Morgan Freeman
He might give them an answer they don't want as he has in the past.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:39 am to VolNavy98
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Kevin Sumlin - 25-23 SEC Record
Derek Mason - 10-46 SEC Record
James Franklin - 11-13 SEC Record
The record don't mean squat when you are at Vanderbilt
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:40 am to lsutigers1992
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One black head coach would be 7 percent. But some people act like if one is coach is hired the wokes win and the world is ending.
Actually, nobody had a problem with James Franklin (besides his personality) and if Georgia had not gotten Smart I would have been happy with Mel Tucker. I am not familiar with the other black coaches that might be qualified, but I can't imagine why people would be opposed to having a black head coach. It would probably give them a leg up in recruiting.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 7:06 am to DawgsLife
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but I can't imagine why people would be opposed to having a black head coach
No one is.
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It would probably give them a leg up in recruiting.
Recruiters recruit. It is regardless of color. It is about putting in the effort to meet the families where they are at.
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if Georgia had not gotten Smart I would have been happy with Mel Tucker.
I think Georgia fans would be ecstatic with Dell Mcgee if he can win ballgames and continue to recruit like a champion (throw in a Bulldawg legacy like McClendon and all the better). But the results have to be on the field.
The benefit of Mel Tucker is that he could lock down the defensive coaching/recruiting where Dell/McClendon may be more like Pittman needing the right hires at both OC/DC to build the team (which is tougher when you lose OCs/DCs).
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:56 am to YStar
Before we can claim any kind of racism we have to look at more than just the skin color of the coaches currently employed. I mean, if 100 white coaches apply for a HC job and only 1 black coach did, is the school racist for hiring a white coach? possibly and possibly not. Until you know why they hired who they did, claiming racism is merely ignorant. Answer these questions then we will have a better idea on the situation.
1) how many black coaches are trying to get a job in the SEC?
2) How many white coaches are trying to get a job in the SEC?
3) How many black coaches were not given jobs they tried for?
4) how many white coaches were not given jobs they tried for?
Honestly these 4 questions leave a lot of important information out. But if we don't look into at least these statistics before trying to insinuate the SEC might be racist, then we are trying to start a fight and not fix a problem. Just to say there not being any Black HC's in the SEC means the SEC is racist.. In the words of a absent minded man.. "come on man".
1) how many black coaches are trying to get a job in the SEC?
2) How many white coaches are trying to get a job in the SEC?
3) How many black coaches were not given jobs they tried for?
4) how many white coaches were not given jobs they tried for?
Honestly these 4 questions leave a lot of important information out. But if we don't look into at least these statistics before trying to insinuate the SEC might be racist, then we are trying to start a fight and not fix a problem. Just to say there not being any Black HC's in the SEC means the SEC is racist.. In the words of a absent minded man.. "come on man".
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:12 am to Razorback Reverend
There is an easy solution for this one bro. If they have the exact same qualifications and on paper neither coach is superior and neither one owns a motorcycle... You poll the volleyball team, see which coach they are most likely to sleep with, then hire the other guy.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:18 am to CoachN8
With the SEC being the premier conference in college football, 12 of the jobs are probably the top 30 in all of college football.
This isn't a general distribution of head coaching jobs at the D1 level. There is much more going into the timing of hiring for those 12 jobs and the candidates in the running at that time.
Could Deion elevate to that level? Absolutely. Was he there 2-10 years ago? No. Given time, Dell Mcgee and Brian McClendon could reach into that top 30 level. Those are the current long standing position coaches at UGA. I'm sure there are 20 more like them scattered through the SEC. And probably 30 more throughout the other p5 conferences.
This isn't a general distribution of head coaching jobs at the D1 level. There is much more going into the timing of hiring for those 12 jobs and the candidates in the running at that time.
Could Deion elevate to that level? Absolutely. Was he there 2-10 years ago? No. Given time, Dell Mcgee and Brian McClendon could reach into that top 30 level. Those are the current long standing position coaches at UGA. I'm sure there are 20 more like them scattered through the SEC. And probably 30 more throughout the other p5 conferences.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:45 am to MJackson
I have no idea but how many O coordinators and how many D coordinators in the SEC are non-white coming into this season?
How many of those would be considered HC material by their fanbase and/or the powers that be?
How many of those would be considered HC material by their fanbase and/or the powers that be?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:11 am to Finkle is Einhorn
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Yep Mel Tucker has been a pretty damn good coach at a really great school which has been to the playoffs once already
Actually Tucker has done a superb job. Sparty normally doesn't throw a lot of money towards the football program...basketball is king in East Lansing.
The other problem there is that you are taking the scraps left behind by Michigan, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:34 am to blzr
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I member when racists wanted Auburn to hire Turner Gill only because he was black
Alabama fans wanted Auburn to hire Turner Gill because he's a shitty coach.
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