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re: nick saban's quote on college football playoffs

Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:28 am to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:28 am to
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I have no issue with a non division winner making the playoffs over a division winner in college football




First it was that non division winners shouldnt be winning championships. Now it is this. Keep moving that goal post champ
Posted by Jason9782003
Member since Aug 2007
3552 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:30 am to
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Happens it just about every sport. Wild cards in MLB and NFL, third/fourth place division finishers in NBA, etc. All make the playoffs


Can you give us one example in any of the above leagues you mentioned of when the 2nd place team in a division makes the playoffs and the champion of that same division does not make the playoffs? Well, that's what you have going on in college football.

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:30 am to
That wasn't any personal insult

Auburn had their opportunity to make their case, and they got BTFO by UGA, who was one pass play away from winning the title against the team that you apparently think was undeserving.

The team that beat #1 and #2 in consecutive weeks, and lost 1 game on the road

You also owe an apology to an innocent man
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:30 am to
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I can't take CFB serious until they implement a conference champion metric. Teams winning a championship without even winning their division is hilarious.


If the conference champ is not automatically in, there is no point in playing conference championships. It’s making some teams play an extra game that could potentially negatively impact them and is unfair.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:31 am to
I haven’t moved my goal post at all champ


It’s simple. And it is the same. A division champ shouldn’t move below a team in their division due to the result of an extra game
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:37 am to
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Can you give us one example in any of the above leagues you mentioned of when the 2nd place team in a division makes the playoffs and the champion of that same division does not make the playoffs?
Can you give an example of a 4 team playoff in any sport?

4 best get in. Period.
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:37 am to
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Congrats


In 2011, 2012, and 2017 yall lost in the month of November and still made the playoffs/title game


Look I agree with Saban in theory, but the truth is that theory applies to most schools but not Bama apparantly


That is why it is ironic coming from him




Ironic since 7SU lost late in 2011 season too. rmft.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:38 am to
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They finished the job before they had to play an EXTRA game


Well I suppose they could've chosen to not play in the SECCG, and take their chances on the committee seeding them in the playoff? But we all know the entire fan base would've revolted because all we heard for a solid week was how they were going to dismantle UGA and "beat the dog crap" out of them again in ATL.

The current system we have in place to determine the CFP teams was agreed to by all schools. People whined and bitched the ranking system and we got the BCS, people bitched about the BCS and now we have a playoff and some are still whining and bitching.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:39 am to
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4 best get in. Period.
Then come out and say that and be consistent

They spout of all this bullshite year to year and completely change their talking point and contradict themselves

Just say we are going to pick the 4 teams we personally feel are the best
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:39 am to
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If the conference champ is not automatically in, there is no point in playing conference championships. It’s making some teams play an extra game that could potentially negatively impact them and is unfair.


Drop Champ game and divisions, go to a 10 game SEC schedule?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:41 am to
Also, a simple fix is to make a disclaimer a team in a conference champ game can’t slide below someone that stayed home that week


That makes sense and does not favor anyone. All will potentially benefit at some point
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:41 am to
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Drop Champ game and divisions, go to a 10 game SEC schedule?


People go full retard when they get desperate.

The SECCG is the most important conference game of the entire season.

All of the talk about 9 or 10 game conference schedules ignores the most obvious fact that only 1 conference game is critical to the success of the SEC. And that is the conference championship game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:41 am to
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Drop Champ game and divisions, go to a 10 game SEC schedule?

Mkes way more sense to me
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:41 am to
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If the conference champ is not automatically in, there is no point in playing conference championships. It’s making some teams play an extra game that could potentially negatively impact them and is unfair.
Take it up with Aleva and F. King!

Damn, until the fans petition their Administration, the Athletic Director and President/Chancellor there will be no change. If Joe Aleva and King Alexander don't feel that there should be a conference championship game, then this week is the time to voice their opinion. They are ALL sitting around a damn table in Destin right now - SPEAK UP while you have the floor.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:42 am to
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It’s simple. And it is the same. A division champ shouldn’t move below a team in their division due to the result of an extra game

I can see your reasoning...but it's not practical. The committee has never put a 2-loss team in the play-off; there's no way they were gonna put in a 3-loss team, especially one that was not a conference champ. And since the committee had set a precedent last year, choosing a 1-loss Ohio State while leaving out a 2-loss Penn State, who not only beat OSU head-to-head, but won their division AND their conference, there's no way AU was getting in without winning the SEC.

Letting in OSU in 2016 while leaving Penn State out was much more questionable than letting Bama in this past season...at least when Bama was voted in, the champs from their conference made it in as well...
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:44 am to
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Just say we are going to pick the 4 teams we personally feel are the best
They have said that, and they've voted that way

Why are you crying about 4 loss Auburn and not undefeated UCF?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:45 am to
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They finished the job before they had to play an EXTRA game



Nah, the only reason they were mentioned as a playoff possibility was because they would have an extra game and needed to win said extra game to even be considered. Without an SECCG win the entire world knew they were not going to the playoff
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42563 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:46 am to
Everyone is deflecting using AU. UGA was screwed by the flawed CFB system last year. They completed every task. Won their division. Won their conference. Bama recieved additional rest to heal their LBers, while UGA grinded against AU twice, then the playoffs. UGA was the best team last year amd was hosed by a team that couldn't win their division.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:47 am to
I have made my case for UCf before

And why do you keep acting like this actually has anything to do with auburn or Bama?

I don’t care if auburn had 11 losses

Once the committee but them ahead of Bama, they shouldn’t have slid below them for playing the extra game

It’s simple, add the disclaimer a conference champ participant can’t slide below someone who stayed at home

That follows logic and will honestly benefit Bama more than anyone going forward
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:48 am to
They didn’t. They moved down because they lost
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