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re: nick saban's quote on college football playoffs
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:39 am to AUCE05
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:39 am to AUCE05
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I can't take CFB serious until they implement a conference champion metric. Teams winning a championship without even winning their division is hilarious.
Happens it just about every sport. Wild cards in MLB and NFL, third/fourth place division finishers in NBA, etc. All make the playoffs.
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:44 am to elposter
quote:You are telling me you have seen a division winner not make the playoffs in MLB, NBA, and NFL while the second place division team did?
Happens it just about every sport. Wild cards in MLB and NFL, third/fourth place division finishers in NBA, et
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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In those sports you have seen a second place division team make the playoffs while the division champ doesnt?
The division champ had 3 loses. Bama had 1. The CFP only has four slots. Look I get youre mad and everything but take it up with your AD.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:47 am to StopRobot
quote:Once again you cant logically defend the fact AU didnt make it. You try to come up with a cute attack about being angry. frick Auburn with an aids dick
The division champ had 3 loses. Bama had 1. The CFP only has four slots. Look I get youre mad and everything but take it up with your AD.
Just admit it makes no sense
The committee fricked up by moving AU ahead of bama. Once they did that, AU shouldnt have then dropped due to playing an extra game
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 10:48 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:48 am to lsupride87
No I'm telling you that this idea espoused by many that you should have to win your conference/division to win the national championship in college football doesn't exist in most others sports. People just like to bitch about it on college football. I do get it though. People are sick of Alabama winning.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:49 am to Tuscaloosa
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If either of those losses happen late in the season,
OSU/Iowa was in November but thanks for playing
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:49 am to elposter
quote:Ok
No I'm telling you that this idea espoused by many that you should have to win your conference/division to win the national championship in college football doesn't exist in most others sports.
So once again you are using other sports to defend your position, yet you dont want to use other sports in regards to a division champ not making the playoff while the second place team does
quote:Can yall not try and stay on track here?
I do get it though. People are sick of Alabama winning.
This is a sure sign you believe you have no logical argument
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:50 am to bamasgot13
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His point was that the debate about whether or not a one loss SEC team should be in over a 2 loss Ohio State team that lost by 15 to one team and 31 to another team was ONLY because of the timing of the one loss the SEC team received. Had said SEC team lost the 1st conference game of the year and then ran the table it wouldn't have been as much of a debate.
I don't think the debate was about timing of the losses. To me, it was about quality of wins. Bama had almost none, and OSU had a good number (I think 3). Should 1 loss and no top 20 type wins trump 2 losses and 3 top 20 wins?
None of us on this board can say that was the debate, but that at least seemed like it to me
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
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The committee fricked up by moving AU ahead of bama. Once they did that, AU shouldnt have then dropped due to playing an extra game
When they got destroyed by Georgia away from Jordan Hare, committee realized that they overvalued Auburn and adjusted their ranking accordingly. No reason to compound one mistake in the rankings with another. They got it right and Alabama is your 2017 National Champions.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:51 am to Gustave
quote:No. That is not my argument in here at all
Who do you think should have been chosen? OSU or USC?
My only argument revolves around what happened to Auburn
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:53 am to elposter
quote:In my opinion, dropping a team due to an extra game by winning your division lacks all sorts of common sense
When they got destroyed by Georgia away from Jordan Hare, committee realized that they overvalued Auburn and adjusted their ranking accordingly.
It would be like the lower seeds in a tournament getting the bye over the top seeds
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:53 am to lsupride87
quote:Just last season, how could they have moved Auburn up in the rankings for just playing in the SECCG when they lost by 21 pts in that game and already had 3 losses by the time that game was over?
They need to say the conference champ game is optional, or that a team can only go up in rankings by playing in it
Having a team fall because they played an extra game is illogical.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:54 am to RT1941
quote:They dont move them up.
Just last season, how could they have moved Auburn up in the rankings for just playing in the SECCG when they lost by 21 pts in that game and already had 3 losses by the time that game was over?
My point was, a team who didnt make the champ game should not be able to move ahead of a team that lost in the extra game
It is the same logic of losing points on a bonus assignment
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:56 am to Tuscaloosa
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“My issue with the playoff is that if you lose late in the season it has a much greater impact than if you lose early in the season”
signed 2011, 2012, and 2017 when Saban's team lost in November and still found their way to the national title game. In 2011, Alabama dropped from 2 to 3 with a November loss. From 1 to 4 in 2012 with a November loss. And from 1 to 5 with a November loss in 2017. I'm not sure what this "greater impact" he's referring to is. That may be true for other teams but has never been true for a Nick Saban coached Alabama team.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
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My only argument revolves around what happened to Auburn
Committee has told you repeatedly that they look at the whole body of work each week and that you should not make the mistake at looking at prior weeks rankings to determine what happens in subsequent weeks. That is the mistake you are making. What happened to Auburn in against Georgia in Atlanta confirmed for the committee what some expected - Auburn was a very good team at home and a pretty mediocre team away from home. Not a team that you are going to put in a four team playoff. So with Auburn out they had to look at the options for that 4th team after Clemson, Georgia, and Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:00 am to Tuscaloosa
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Like in 2009? Or was that the year we went undefeated and kicked the dog shite out of Texas? I can’t remember.
Barely beat Auburn and Tennessee in 2009, knocked Colt McCoy out of the title game and the freshman backup made it close. Congratulations to the great Nick Saban on his lone undefeated season, the same number of undefeated seasons as Terry Bowden, Gene Chizik, and Tommy Tubberville.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:00 am to elposter
quote:I understand
Committee has told you repeatedly that they look at the whole body of work each week and that you should not make the mistake at looking at prior weeks rankings to determine what happens in subsequent weeks. That is the mistake your are making
I disagree there is any logic in dropping a team due to playing an extra game below the team that sat home because they lost the division
The body of work at the end of the season had AU ahead of Bama........
Then, AU had to play an extra game from being a division champ
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
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In those sports you have seen a second place division team make the playoffs while the division champ doesnt?
I was answering the conference champion metric mentioned. In basketball, at least in the SEC, there are no divisions any more.
People act like Bama is the only team that gets the benefit of the doubt and they weren't even the first teams to get in the back door. In 2001, Nebraska was in the BCS championship game even though they got blown out by Colorado on the last game of the season; they didn't win their division (Big 12 champ Colorado did and they were left out). And in 2016, Ohio State made the CFP field even though they didn't win their division (Big 10 champ Penn State did and they were left out)...
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
quote:When they get BTFO for their 3rd loss of the year vs 1 loss?
I disagree there is any logic in dropping a team due to playing an extra game below the team that sat home because they lost the division
Sorry you don't understand college football
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:04 am to AUCE05
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I can't take CFB serious until they implement a conference champion metric. Teams winning a championship without even winning their division is hilarious.
Tell the NFL. 6 wildcard teams have won the Super Bowl.
Not all conferences are created equal.
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