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NFL World Champs from the Past vs National Champs
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:50 pm
85 Bears vs 2019 LSU
Who wins on a neutral field?
2018 Clemson vs 1966 Packers
???
1976 Pittsburgh Steelers (greatest of the steel curtains)
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2020 Tide
Who wins on a neutral field?
2018 Clemson vs 1966 Packers
???
1976 Pittsburgh Steelers (greatest of the steel curtains)
Vs
2020 Tide
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:50 pm to RiverCityTider
Is Ditka driving the bus?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:52 pm to RiverCityTider
I am quite certain that no one is beating a pro team unless they are from the 40s
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:25 pm to RiverCityTider
Depends on the rules.
If the rules are close to 2020, those 20th Century defenses will be depleted by targeting ejections before halftime.
If 20th Century rules are used, the light body rosters of contemporary teams may struggle with the amount of physical punishment.
If the rules are close to 2020, those 20th Century defenses will be depleted by targeting ejections before halftime.
If 20th Century rules are used, the light body rosters of contemporary teams may struggle with the amount of physical punishment.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:58 pm to RiverCityTider
I definitely think Clemson and the Tide win. LSU, not so much.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:23 pm to RiverCityTider
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1976 Pittsburgh Steelers (greatest of the steel curtains)
Vs
2020 Tide
Back in the day a team of college all-stars used to play the defending Super Bowl champion. The games were competitive. The Steelers won the last two in '75 (21-14) and '76 (24-0).
If a team of college all-stars from 1975 (at the height of the frickin' wishbone era) that had never played a game together could stay on the field with the '70s Steelers, I would take 2020 Alabama.
The largest player for the 1976 Steelers was 275 lbs. No one else weighed more than 260 lbs. 2020 Alabama had 18 players over 300 lbs.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:36 pm to Globetrotter747
I think there is about a 30 year differential. So around 1990 would be about where the colleges are now
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:00 pm to RiverCityTider
And forget the neutral field stuff. Let’s see an 80s era NFL team from up north play the first Saturday in September against an LSU/Bama/Florida team with a kickoff anywhere from noon to 2:30. Conditioning today plus the heat would be interesting to see.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:44 pm to RiverCityTider
We love to say college teams can't compete with pros, but here's the thing- offenses have evolved, and top colleges have top players. LSU had likely 5 first rd skill players, and an O Line with a bunch of 300lb guys who could hold the block for a second or so.
Elite modern offenses would destroy any defense, no matter how talented, if they are running 30+ year old schemes. You come in with a 4-6 D and blitz LSU, and it would just get ugly. You're not going to hit Burrow fast enough, he isn't going to line up under center with 2 backs and a TE either running into the line, or dropping back and trying to get a route to come open.
He'd be in the gun with 3 WRs and a TE split wide, tossing back-shoulder lobs against man coverage damn near every play... and he could do that accurately, to WRs who would scorch their corners.
If you play by today's rules and can't hammer Burrow after the pass every play, LSU wins. I think Payton gets his yards, but I don't see the Bears keeping up. Gault had pure speed at WR for them, but Vincent keeps up on the deep routes, he has the same speed. And Stingley would contain him on 'normal' routes.
Similar situation for Bama vs the Steelers, we're talking an offense that just outclasses anything they faced.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:06 pm to RiverCityTider
LSU would beat the bears by a blowout. Athletes are way bigger and stronger in 2019.
You’re an idiot if you think even a pro team is beating a 2019 elite college team from 1985
You’re an idiot if you think even a pro team is beating a 2019 elite college team from 1985
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 6:56 am to BamaIsGoat
I know if you go back far enough the colleges win, the question is, how far?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:35 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:I think level of play lines up to maybe 15 years, but a lot depends on player and schemes, and how things match up.
I know if you go back far enough the colleges win, the question is, how far?
For example, the 85 Bears, and the 3 college teams mentioned.
I think they beat 2018 Clemson, because I don't think Clemson was doing anything that was capable of defeating that defense. Sunshine might be the top QB prospect in awhile, but he never showed me he could run a balls-to-the-wall offense efficiently.
Alabama 2020 is interesting, since Bama is loaded with offensive weapons. Smith is a nightmare, Harris is legit, and if Waddle is included, you have a ton. But I never saw Jones go into fast-mode with the offense (hey, I could be wrong here), so I don't know how he'd handle the pressure.
LSU 2019, imo, is not a team you want to pressure. You want to sit back and contain.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:38 pm to RiverCityTider
I remember when Bama would have beaten the Arizona Cardinals in 2018, then they got destroyed by Clemson. These discussions are fricking dumb.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:46 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:No they're not, they're just something to discuss... on a message board. Nobody's stating "oh this team is the bestest, better than everthing else". At least I'm not.
I remember when Bama would have beaten the Arizona Cardinals in 2018, then they got destroyed by Clemson. These discussions are fricking dumb.
I'm looking at matchups.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:54 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
These discussions are fricking dumb.
Seems like this is a different discussion. It's modern college team vs a pro team for 30+ years ago.
Training,nutrition,scheme, analytics have all changed in highschool/college over the last 40 years.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:31 pm to Gustave
Well some seem to feel an NFL team from the 40s would beat colleges today.
Lol.
To me thats crazy talk. Alot of 195 lb linemen trying to block 300 lbers.
But hey. It's the NFL.
Back then those army teams would have crushed an NFL team.
Lol.
To me thats crazy talk. Alot of 195 lb linemen trying to block 300 lbers.
But hey. It's the NFL.
Back then those army teams would have crushed an NFL team.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:53 pm to RiverCityTider
We aren’t talking about a modern day NFL team. This is an 85 team that could not match up with LSU in 2019 for shite due to faster and bigger athletes.
The NFL is obviously a jump in competition but to compare a 85 football team to a 2019 team and even think for a second the game is close blows my mind
The NFL is obviously a jump in competition but to compare a 85 football team to a 2019 team and even think for a second the game is close blows my mind
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:16 am to BamaIsGoat
Goodness gracious. Mike Singletary and Wilbur Marshall might as well not even show up then.
The 85 Bears would wreck 2019 LSU. NFL players of the 80s were very strong and athletic. The modern scheme would be an issue for the 85 team, but it's 22-35 year old men in their prime for the Bears.
The 85 Bears would wreck 2019 LSU. NFL players of the 80s were very strong and athletic. The modern scheme would be an issue for the 85 team, but it's 22-35 year old men in their prime for the Bears.
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