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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:13 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:13 pm to Weagle25
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No you can't hire him at all.
they can hire him as a coach, but they can't just hire him as a part-time motivational speaker given his outside obligations and connections is how i'm understanding this
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:14 pm to scrooster
dafork? Seems like they could hire him as a "support staff" and he can do w/e the hell they want him to, right? I mean, aren't there like assistant strategic coke bottle placement coordinator support staff members for Saban? Who gives a shite if they previously played for the university. :|
ETA: Hmm. Seems additional comments have tied the issue back to camps that he runs outside, but I have a hard time buying that one. I mean in that scenario, couldn't all of Mark Richt's old mission trips have been considered potential recruiting violations if we ever grabbed a player from Haiti? Ultimately, is there any doubt that Lattimore would be steering players to USC if he were to steer at all? I genuinely don't even think he would unless the kid wanted to go there to begin with anyways. Dumb shite is dumb.
ETA: Hmm. Seems additional comments have tied the issue back to camps that he runs outside, but I have a hard time buying that one. I mean in that scenario, couldn't all of Mark Richt's old mission trips have been considered potential recruiting violations if we ever grabbed a player from Haiti? Ultimately, is there any doubt that Lattimore would be steering players to USC if he were to steer at all? I genuinely don't even think he would unless the kid wanted to go there to begin with anyways. Dumb shite is dumb.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:21 pm to Weagle25
No we can hire him, and he can have a position that is related to football, he just cant be listed as a member of Muschamps staff.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:25 pm to fibonaccisquared
i think it's a perfectly logical decision by the ncaa.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:32 pm to lsufball19
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in the article posted
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There would be nothing to stop Muschamp from hiring Lattimore as a coach, but Lattimore has consistently said that he doesn’t think he would want to coach in college due to the time demands.
Yeah, that's what didn't make any sense. He's not a coach, but he is on the staff.
What is the unfair advantage? A former player working on staff at his school, but not a coach? How is that any different than a non-former player working on a team's staff and not a coach?
I don't get it. The "former player" angle is throwing me off.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:34 pm to lsufball19
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they can hire him as a coach, but they can't just hire him as a part-time motivational speaker given his outside obligations and connections is how i'm understanding this
Still makes no sense. What if he did it for free? Non-employee?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:36 pm to KaiserSoze99
Its not the former player part. Marcus runs his own FB camps in the area and I guess the NCAA sees that as a way to funnel talent towards the program. It makes sense I guess. They did leave the door open for him to have his "Life Coach" role in the athletics department as a whole, he just cant be listed as a member of the football staff. Or at least that's how I interpreted it.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:38 pm to KaiserSoze99
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they can hire him as a coach, but they can't just hire him as a part-time motivational speaker given his outside obligations and connections is how i'm understanding this
quote:The way I understand it is it's an unfair recruiting advantage to have him on staff whether he gets paid or not. He can't run his camp activities which basically helps steer kids to colleges AND serve on the USC staff in any capacity.
Still makes no sense. What if he did it for free? Non-employee?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:39 pm to scrooster
So basically they are saying its a recruiting advantage to have a person on staff that can help players prepare for life after football? If he ends his camps it would be ok though?
Am I reading this correctly?
Am I reading this correctly?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:40 pm to GameCocky88
Okay, so they don't list him as a member of the staff, but he can still enter into contracts with the athletic program for various speaking engagements, or for team training, as a consultant, right?
It's starting to look like a semantics game to me.
It's starting to look like a semantics game to me.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:41 pm to scrooster
I am sure once he graduates he can do whatever he wants, including being on the coaching staff.
Justin Vincent works at LSU.
Justin Vincent works at LSU.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:42 pm to Dr RC
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So basically they are saying its a recruiting advantage to have a person on staff that can help players prepare for life after football?
no, that's not what they are saying. they don't want him running a football camp and also working in the football department at a particular school. it's not that difficult to understand.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:42 pm to scrooster
Lame but I get it. Its the rule to keep you from hiring 100 "staff" members to do recruiting and get around the coach limit. Somebody hire this guy as a coach though.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:43 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:I think that sums it up.
Okay, so they don't list him as a member of the staff, but he can still enter into contracts with the athletic program for various speaking engagements, or for team training, as a consultant, right?
It's starting to look like a semantics game to me.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:50 pm to RT1941
Hire him as team chaplain. Isn't there an opening?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:51 pm to scrooster
Um, what? Football staffs are full of former players
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:55 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Seems additional comments have tied the issue back to camps that he runs outside, but I have a hard time buying that one. I mean in that scenario, couldn't all of Mark Richt's old mission trips have been considered potential recruiting violations if we ever grabbed a player from Haiti? Ultimately, is there any doubt that Lattimore would be steering players to USC if he were to steer at all? I genuinely don't even think he would unless the kid wanted to go there to begin with anyways.
Why do you have a hard time buying it when, despite being poorly written, that's exactly what the story says.
247 Sports put it this way:
The former running back, who runs The Marcus Lattimore Foundation and runs several football camps, interacts with recruits and prospects and it is considered an unfair advantage.
As far as I know, Richt wasn't holding football camps in Haiti. The camps are the hangup. If Lattimore would stop them, there wouldn't be an issue.
As far as your comments about steering, I completely agree. I don't see him doing that.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:57 pm to WG_Dawg
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I don't understand this?
WG... this is NCAA related. You don't try to understand it. Hell you avoid any attempt to understand it.
The NCAA is the path to madness. When Nietzsche was talking about not staring into the abyss least it stare back at you he was having a vision of the NCAA rules.
USCe should just nod, agree with the NCAA, and then hire Lattimore to some other position in the Athletic Department.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:08 pm to Arksulli
This basicly changes nothing other than him "not officialy on the staff"
Im sure SC can pay him to give speeches etc but he doesnt want a coaching job. SC cant have him on staff unless he drops the other activities that would be recruiting violations and unfair advantages ( camps etc. )
fricking periphery
Im sure SC can pay him to give speeches etc but he doesnt want a coaching job. SC cant have him on staff unless he drops the other activities that would be recruiting violations and unfair advantages ( camps etc. )
fricking periphery
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:10 pm to scrooster
Easily winnable lawsuit.
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