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NCAA will not allow Lattimore to be on staff ....

Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:53 pm
They are always willing to interfere with the good things LINK
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
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They are always willing to interfere with the good thing


Yet they ignore massive academic fraud in Chapel Hill.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
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The NCAA has stated that Lattimore cannot join Will Muschamp’s staff at USC due to Lattimore’s status as a former player


obviously him being a former player is not a reason he can't coach there. See: kirby

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his presence through football camps and foundation. The NCAA considers it an unfair recruiting advantage.


I don't understand this?



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Lattimore can still speak to the team and be on the program’s periphery, but he can’t be named to a staff position. There would be nothing to stop Muschamp from hiring Lattimore as a coach,


wait wut?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
why can't USC just give him a non-staff position within the athletic department? For instance, Justin Vincent, a former player and former NFL vet for Pittsburgh, is the assistant director of player personnel
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:57 pm to
Let me see if I understand this right.

Muschamp wants him on staff but not as a coach. Right? And if you aren't a coach, then you can't recruit. So what unfair advantage does the NCAA think SCar is getting?


Also barring him from being on staff because he's a former player is down right idiotic.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:58 pm to
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The NCAA has stated that Lattimore cannot join Will Muschamp’s staff at USC due to Lattimore’s status as a former player
if that's the case then Lynn Swann should be asked to resign
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:58 pm to
So Ole Miss can go and hire the brother of a recruit but a former player cant be on staff? That is bullshite
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
Are GAs considered staff? How was it ok for guys like Josh Heupel and Major Applewhite to almost immediately become GAs after their careers ended? I know that was 12-13 years ago but this makes no sense to me.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Also barring him from being on staff because he's a former player is down right idiotic.

yeah, that makes zero sense. there are plenty of former players on staff throughout the country. maybe it has something to do with USC being maxed out on official staff members and wanting Lattimore being involved in practices, recruiting, and whatnot. I can see that being an issue. But the reasoning in that article doesn't make any sense
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:59 pm to
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And if you aren't a coach, then you can't recruit. So what unfair advantage does the NCAA think SCar is getting?



You can recruit, but not off campus.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Are GAs considered staff? How was it ok for guys like Josh Heupel and Major Applewhite to almost immediately become GAs after their careers ended? I know that was 12-13 years ago but this makes no sense to me.

there's a finite number of GAs you're allowed to have and they can only coach for two years as a GA. there's also limitations on how much they can compensate grad assistants
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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I don't understand this?


The story is very short on detail, but I think the crux of the issue is that Lattimore doesn't want be a full time coach. He's got a foundation that helps young players through camps and such and doesn't want to give that up.

The NCAA apparently thinks that his status as a former player and being on staff could be used to steer players to USC.

I see their point, but to counter that argument, if he wants to do that then he'll do it whether he's a part time staffer or not.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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The NCAA has stated that Lattimore cannot join Will Muschamp’s staff at USC due to Lattimore’s status as a former player and his presence through football camps and foundation. The NCAA considers it an unfair recruiting advantage.

This makes no damn sense.

So, a former player cannot coach at his school?

What in the actual frick?

I don't get it. How did Steve Spurrier do it all those years at Florida?
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:02 pm to
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You can recruit, but not off campus.

I still don't see how they get an unfair advantage from this though. You can bring back former players to recruit on campus if you want anyways. We do it with Cam.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
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He's got a foundation that helps young players through camps and such and doesn't want to give that up.

The NCAA apparently thinks that his status as a former player and being on staff could be used to steer players to USC.


Ooook, see that makes sense. No clue why that pitifully written article would be so confusing.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:04 pm to
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The story is very short on detail, but I think the crux of the issue is that Lattimore doesn't want be a full time coach. He's got a foundation that helps young players through camps and such and doesn't want to give that up.

The NCAA apparently thinks that his status as a former player and being on staff could be used to steer players to USC.

I see their point, but to counter that argument, if he wants to do that then he'll do it whether he's a part time staffer or not.

So is it more to do with that he's running a camp for young players than him being a former player?

Because that would make more sense.
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:06 pm to
This is confusing to me.

He can come and speak to players and at event (with recruits present,) but he can't get paid for it.... When did the communists win?

We can hire him with some title like "Life Coach" but we can't hire him with an administrative title like "Director of Life Coaching."


The NCAA took 3 months to figure this out, but now going on over 5 years to figure out that UNC cheated. #ncaaproblems.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:06 pm to
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So, a former player cannot coach at his school?

What in the actual frick?

I don't get it. How did Steve Spurrier do it all those years at Florida?

in the article posted
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There would be nothing to stop Muschamp from hiring Lattimore as a coach, but Lattimore has consistently said that he doesn’t think he would want to coach in college due to the time demands.

Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:08 pm to
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We can hire him with some title like "Life Coach" but we can't hire him with an administrative title like "Director of Li

No you can't hire him at all.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:09 pm to
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So is it more to do with that he'srunning a camp for young players than him being a former player?


Correct. Can't do that and be in staff getting paid by the school.
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